Pagoda Gambling

[Christoph]

Now you don’t need to battle in order to strike it rich at the Pagoda! Now you can play a game of chance and hopefully profit off of the hard work of the battlers. The system is simple:


To post a wager in this thread, you must include the following things:

A link to the battle in question – this is for convenience.

The combatant you wish to bet on – the one you think is going to win.

How much you are wagering – any amount is allowed, though it is wise to choose an amount of GP that others will be willing and able to accept.

The odds/payout ratio – this represents how much of an advantage or disadvantage your chosen battler has in your opinion, and it also decided how much GP another gambler would need to accept your bet. Example: You place a wager of 500 GP on Player A, but set the odds as 2:1 in the favor of Player A against Player B. This would mean that someone accepting your bet would only need to put forth 250 GP. As with the quantity being wagered, you may set this as whatever you like, but keep in mind that you want to make your open wager appealing to other potential gamblers. On that note, items may also be wagered against gold or other items.

Notes: Hierarchs and challengers MAY bet on themselves, but may NOT bet against themselves. All wagers must be placed and accepted before 7th post is made. A judge, obviously, cannot bet on threads that he/she is judging.

More notes: Default wins/losses count the same way as regular wins and losses here. It's just another thing to keep in mind when betting.

[Christoph]

I'll start things off with a wager on the "big fight."

Battle: Bloodrose vs. Godhand (http://www.althanas.com/world/showthread.php?t=14490)
Wager: 200 GP on Bloodrose, 1:1 odds

[Taskmienster]

Taking Christoph's bet 200 gold on Godhand.

And including bets
Battle = Cyrus v. Jobe (http://www.althanas.com/world/showthread.php?t=14224)
Wager = 300 on Cyrus (guessing 3:1 odds in favor of Cyrus)

Battle = Dra v. Logan (http://www.althanas.com/world/showthread.php?t=14086)
Wager = 300 on Logan, 1:1 odds

[Karuka]

Battle = Dra v. Logan (http://www.althanas.com/world/showthread.php?t=14086)
Wager = 300 on Logan, 1:1 odds

Wager accepted. 300 on Dra.

[Godhand]

Battle: Bloodrose vs. Godhand. (http://www.althanas.com/world/showthread.php?t=14490)
Wager: 300 on myself, odds 1:1

I apologize for ignoring the format the first time.

[016573]

Battle = Cyrus v. Jobe (http://www.althanas.com/world/showthread.php?t=14224)
Wager = 300 on Cyrus (guessing 3:1 odds in favor of Cyrus)

Wager Accepted. My 100 against your 300 that Jobe will beat Cyrus.

[Witchblade]

Battle: Bloodrose vs. Godhand. (http://www.althanas.com/world/showthread.php?t=14490)
Wager: 300 on myself, odds 1:1

I apologize for ignoring the format the first time.

Wager accepted! My 300 against your 300 in favour of Bloodrose.

[Godhand]

Goddamnit, Christoph edited my post. Don't do that, Christoph. Anyway, I meant to bet 400 gold. Is that alright?

[Christoph]

I didn't change the amount. I just put it in the correct format since you were too lazy to follow the instructions.

[The Writing Writer]

Wager Accepted. My 100 against your 300 that Jobe will beat Cyrus.


Battle: Breaker vs. Devonus: The Gloaming (http://www.althanas.com/world/showthread.php?t=14035)
Wager: 600 on Myself, odds 3:1 in my favor
Bet Status: Open


I'll take it.
My 200 hundred against your 600 that Dev pulls an upset. =]

[Brogalaw]

Gambling is such a rush. Any other high rollers out here? Bets with heavier odds are at the bottom.


Battle: Bloodrose vs Godhand: Champions (http://www.althanas.com/world/showthread.php?t=14490)
Wager: 500 on Bloodrose to win.
Odds: 1:1
Status: Taken by the Writing Writer


Battle: Luc vs Anastacia: A Good Title Here (http://www.althanas.com/world/showthread.php?t=14478)
Wager: 250 on The Sweetest Thing to win
Odds: 1:2 against TST (this is my underdog bet)
Status: Taken by A Nony Mouse

[The Writing Writer]

Gambling is such a rush. Any other high rollers out here? Bets with heavier odds are at the bottom.


Battle: Bloodrose vs Godhand: Champions (http://www.althanas.com/world/showthread.php?t=14490)
Wager: 500 on Bloodrose to win.
Odds: 1:1
Status: Open

Got it.
My 500 against yours, in favor of the God of Hands.

Brother v. Jacob: Poetry in Motion (http://www.althanas.com/world/showthread.php?t=14675)
Wager: 300 on myself to win.
Odds: 1:1
Status: Open

[A Nony Mouse]

Battle: Luc vs Anastacia: A Good Title Here (http://www.althanas.com/world/showthread.php?t=14478)
Wager: 250 on The Sweetest Thing to win
Odds: 1:2 against TST (this is my underdog bet)
Status: Closed

I'll take it. 500 gold on Cyrus.

Can I do that even though I don't technically have enough gold right now to cover it?

[Christoph]

I'll take it. 500 gold on Cyrus.

Can I do that even though I don't technically have enough gold right now to cover it?

If the other guy is fine with it and thinks you're good for it, then yes.

[016573]

Just know that if you can't pay, I will put a bounty on your head. (Brogalaw is my alt)

[Christoph]

I'll take it. 500 gold on Cyrus.

Can I do that even though I don't technically have enough gold right now to cover it?

If the other guy is fine with it and thinks you're good for it, then yes.

[A Nony Mouse]

Just know that if you can't pay, I will put a bounty on your head. (Brogalaw is my alt)

I just need my spoil gold added :)

And if that isn't added in time, I'll sell something in the bazaar to get enough to cover it. sound good?

[Taskmienster]

Notes: Hierarchs and challengers MAY bet on themselves, but may NOT bet against themselves. All wagers must be placed and accepted before 7th post is made. A judge, obviously, cannot bet on threads that he/she is judging.


Numbers bet on Breaker vs Devonus isn't valid. Neither is the acceptance of it by TWW.

Broglaw's bets on Breaker vs. Cesarino; Monica vs Travis; and Dra vs Jacob aren't valid.

[Cyrus the virus]

All this added pressure!!! Ahhh!

[The Writing Writer]

Ah I see I see. My mistake. Well then I spose I'll withdraw that particular bet.

[A Nony Mouse]

Battle: Luc vs Anastacia: A Good Title Here (http://www.althanas.com/world/showthread.php?t=14478)
Wager: 250 on The Sweetest Thing to win
Odds: 1:2 against TST (this is my underdog bet)
Status: Closed

Cyrus forfeited, do I pay you 500 or 250?

[Brogalaw]

You pay me 500. But, 470 will suffice I suppose. No need to send my goons after you.

*trips out on gambling rush*

[A Nony Mouse]

I can sell something in the Bazaar to get the other 30 gold...

[The Writing Writer]

Forgive the spam, but you both have otters as your avatars...

[Taskmienster]

SHITE, I loose 300 and put it up here for convenience, due to Cyrus' forfeit against Jobe.

[016573]

So far:

Taskmienster loses 300 GP to 016573
A Nony Mouse loses 500 GP to Brogalaw

I'll try to get someone to take care of this.

Zook: ON IT!

Zook: DONE!

[Brogalaw]

I can't stop now!

Battle: Music in the Meat Pit: Christoph vs Edmund Talbott (http://www.althanas.com/world/showthread.php?t=14972)
Wager: 1500 on Christoph to win
Odds: 3:1 in Christoph's favor
Status: Open!

[Cyrus the virus]

I'm really sorry about that, guys. I totally didn't take the gambling into consideration.

[Godhand]

You've failed them!

You've failed them!!!

[Christoph]

Music in the Meat Pit: Christoph vs. Edmund Talbott (http://althanas.com/world/showthread.php?t=14972)
Wager: 200 GP on myself, 2:1 odds

[Edmund Talbott]

Music in the Meat Pit: Christoph vs. Edmund Talbott (http://althanas.com/world/showthread.php?t=14972)
Wager: 200 GP on myself, 2:1 odds

I'll take that action. I come back with my own hundred to match your bet.

[Logan]

Brother v. Arkham: Signs of Life (http://www.althanas.com/world/showthread.php?t=15149)
250 on Arkham to win
odds 1:3 against Arkham (750 to cover -- this is a hugely underdog bet)

[Christoph]

Be sure to post here to claim your winnings. I'll post any new claims in the EXP/GP thread in the mod forum on a weekly basis. On that note...

I won 200 GP from Taskmienster on the Bloodrose vs. Godhand battle.
I won 100 GP from Edmund Talbott on my battle against him (since he dropped and went inactive).

[Godhand]

Well, I hate to let my fans down...

Today, in honor of myself, everyone who lost money on my fight will be covered by me. That is to say, all of their GP losses should come out of my GP. You get it.

[Godhand]

So it's easier for the mods to figure it out, I'll post it here.

500 of my gold goes to 007.

300 hundred goes to Witchblade.

200 goes to Christoph.

I think that's all.

[Zook Murnig]

Gold for the Godhand v. Bloodrose wagers has been transferred as specified above.

[Christoph]

The gambling hall is still open for business. Don't forget that everyone gets a bonus 100 GP gambling credit for Pagoda Month! Be sure to bet wisely (or with reckless abandon, if that's your style).

[Xos]

On the forth coming battle between Christoph and Lord Leopold Stevens
(Thread isn't up yet)

100 on Christoph. 1:1 ratio

[Sighter Tnailog]

I'll accept that wager, Xos.

And I'll toss in another 200, 2:1 odds on LeopoldStevens beating Christoph. This should be a fun fight.

[Christoph]

Aww, no 3:1 odds? Regardless, I'll accept that wager, because I have the gold to burn and I'm not allowed to bet against myself. :p

So, I match Sighter's bet with my 100 GP.

[Zook Murnig]

Using my free Pagoda wagerin' money.

Christoph v. Anonymous
100 on Christoph 1:1 odds. Any takers?

[The Forgotten]

I'll take that with my 100g credit for anonymous. I'm actually looking forward to reading that one.

[Brogalaw]

Edited, see my new post.

[Godhand]

I'll take that last bet.

[Saxon]

Using my credit for this one.

Battle: Bumps On the Road to Fame (http://www.althanas.com/world/showthread.php?t=16750)
Wager: 100 on Christoph against Leopold
Odds: 1:1 in Christoph's favor
Status: Claimed by Shadar.

[Shadar]

I'll take Saxon's bet using my credit.

[Rayse Valentino]

edit: yeah, nevermind, all bets are off, I guess i'll keep it an ic thing since this is all ooc. i guess.

[Christoph]

Battle: Echoes of the Past. (http://www.althanas.com/world/showthread.php?t=16822)
Wager: 200 on Sorahn over Koran
Odds: 1:1
Status: Claimed by Bloodrose

[Bloodrose]

I accept your wager Christoph. 200 on Koran over Sorahn.

[016573]

I anonymously take this bet.

I also anonymously bet 2000 on Leopold, 2:1 odds. Multiple takers available. (aka 1000 covers this one, or two people betting 500 each, etc)

I also anonymously bet 1000 on Leopold, 2:1 odds. Multiple takers available.

(I should have the money for this when the FQ is paid out)

(Let me make it clear that these are IC bets, regardless of OOC outcome. I don't take Brogalaw's bet if he doesn't accept this).

I'm betting that Christoph will win OOCly. When has anyone ever bet on the IC outcome of a fight?

edit: Brogalaw is my alt.

[Taskmienster]

Thread: http://www.althanas.com/world/showthread.php?t=16766
Participants: Ira Shinkara vs Ebivoulya
Wager: 250 on Ebi over Ira
Odds: 1:1
Status: OPEN


Thread: http://www.althanas.com/world/showthread.php?t=16766
Participants: Ira Shinkara vs Ebivoulya
Wager: 400 on Ebi over Ira
Odds: 1:1
Status: OPEN

[016573]

Battle: Phyr vs Brother (http://www.althanas.com/world/showthread.php?t=16879)
Wager: 3000 on Phyr to win
Odds: 6:1 in Phyr's favour
Status: Open

[Brogalaw]

Who wants a piece?

Battle: In the Shadow of a God (http://www.althanas.com/world/showthread.php?t=16754)
Wager: 3000 on Sorahn over Hreark
Odds: 6:1 in Sorahn's favour
Status: Open

Battle: Shadar vs Homunculus (http://www.althanas.com/world/showthread.php?t=16753)
Wager: 1000 on Shadar over Homunculus
Odds: 1:1
Status: 1000gp matched by Godhand

Battle: Brother vs Phyr: Handicaps (http://www.althanas.com/world/showthread.php?t=16879)
Wager: 6000 GP on Phyr over Brother
Odds: 12:1 in Phyr's favour
Status: 500gp matched by Godhand

Battle: Brother vs Phyr: Handicaps (http://www.althanas.com/world/showthread.php?t=16879)
Wager: 6000 GP on Phyr over Brother
Odds: 12:1 in Phyr's favour
Status: Open

More to come soon!

[Godhand]

The odds are way too good on that last bet for me to pass it up. I'll cover that; 500 ought to do it, right?

[016573]

Damn skippy.

[Godhand]

Hey-o! I thought Manda was Les Miserables. In that case I'll cover the other bet too. So, total that's my 1000 against your 12000.

[016573]

Nah, I only have enough GP two field this bet a couple times, and I want those open to other people. You'll have to settle for only paying me 500.

[Godhand]

Oh you faggot.

[016573]

Look on the bright side. This means you'll only owe me five hundred.

[Taskmienster]

Thread: http://www.althanas.com/world/showthread.php?t=16910
Participants: Ira Shinkara vs Elijah_Morendale
Wager: 400 on Ira over Elijah
Odds: 1:1
Status: OPEN

[016573]

Shadar defeats Homunculus by default.
Phyr defeats Brother by default.

Godhand loses 1500 GP.
Brogalaw gains 1500 GP.

[Godhand]

Yeah; no. I'm contesting both of them since the first time a dude is late is just a warning, and I can't see where either of them were late the second time.

[A Nony Mouse]

Brother v. Phyr: Violation of posting time limit between post #2 and #3 and then again after post #4 when he just didn't respond.

Shadar v. Homunculus: Violation of posting time limit between post #6 and #7 and then again between post #10 and #11 and then a third time between post #12 and #13.

Thus, I believe both Brother and Homunculus have forfeit their respective matches.

[Godhand]

You're jumping the fucking gun a bit, aren't you? Half those "violations" were only by a couple of hours.

[Ataraxis]

I'd have to agree that counting those few hours would be an exaggeration. This shouldn't be an inflexible system, and the three-day rule is meant to deter people from being inactive, not to bite them in the ass when activity is what they're going for. Still, to be fair, you could also ask their opponents whether or not they agree that they won because of those violations, or if they'd rather dismiss those violations to continue good battles. We've got enough of people who really go inactive, let's not penalize those who are really trying but were simply unable to post exactly within the time constraints.

[Christoph]

Basically what Atar said. While Brother DID have notable violations, and has thus lost by default, Homun only had one warning that was over maybe an hour or two. So, Brother has lost by default (but may, as always, continue for EXP), but Homun has not, though due to his recent discharge, he will be unable to claim a Pagoda position or challenge up the ranks. As far as the betting goes, the score will have to decide.

And yes, that is my official ruling on the matter.

And Godhand, chill out. Inappropriate conduct such as that will only ruin this betting system for everyone.

[016573]

Alright, so Godhand only loses 500 to Brogalaw for now.

For future reference Chris, how much wiggle room are we allowing? After all, Homun violated the time limit three times, although as has been exhaustively pointed out, two of them were only a couple hours.

So what is an "acceptable" violation of the rule? Two hours? Three? Twelve?

[Christoph]

To go back to what Ataraxis said, the time restrictions don't exist so that players and gamblers can try to scrape up a default win. For that reason, I'm hesitant to lay down any kind of concrete standard on a matter that has always been a common sense issue in the past. What I'm leaning toward at the moment is considering any lateness between 4 and 14 hours count as -half- a warning. Anything under that obviously wouldn't count unless it happened several times, at which point it would be judge's discretion, unless the players agreed to let the small violations slide for the sake of the battle.

[A Nony Mouse]

Just seems that having rules and then allowing them to be ridiculously flexible kinda defeats the purpose of having rules...

[Christoph]

It depends on what the rules are designed for. These rules are not designed to allow nitpicking, which is exactly what was happening.

[016573]

For keeps this time ;)

Shadar defeats Homunculus.

Godhand loses 1000 GP
Brogalaw gains 1000 GP

[Karuka]

I'd like to get a ruling on this (http://althanas.com/world/showthread.php?t=14086) thread, please. The last post was on May 3rd, by Dra. Logan's last activity was on Aug. 8, and despite his recent hiatus, my research indicates he was active around the time of the most recent post. Dra's last activity was May 28, his latest IC post was the response to the battle.

The bet was Taskmienster 300 on Logan, me 300 on Dra.

[Christoph]

Well, Logan has defaulted big time on that battle, so Dra would be the winner. The wager has been noted and will be taken care of.

[016573]

Well, Logan has defaulted big time on that battle, so Dra would be the winner. The wager has been noted and will be taken care of.

It's your call, but you may want to look closer at the post times. Dra defaulted first.

[Karuka]

For the record, I don't mind if the bet is ruled in favor of Task, since I was pretty sure Dra defaulted first (although I only noticed one post beyond the 4-day limit that was in effect then, but I was skimming) but one way or other, I want it settled and tied up instead of hanging there forever. Four months...more like five, since the bet was made...is a ridiculous amount of time for a Pagoda battle.

[Taskmienster]

Dra did Default first.

Logan posted the 9th, Dra on the 15th. (6 days)

Followed by Logan on the 19th (4 days)

Then Dra on the 23rd (4 days)

[Karuka]

You get two times for 5-10 days, but only once for 10+.

[Godhand]

For keeps this time ;)

Shadar defeats Homunculus.

Godhand loses 1000 GP
Brogalaw gains 1000 GP

Well Christ, if it'll keep you from calling technical fouls every two shitgargling hours then sure. Deduct away.

[Christoph]

Dra did Default first.

Logan posted the 9th, Dra on the 15th. (6 days)

Followed by Logan on the 19th (4 days)

Then Dra on the 23rd (4 days)

This occured before the time limit reverted back to three days from four, so all Dra got there was one warning, whereas Logan vanished.

[Christoph]

Battle: Destrudo vs. Massacre (http://althanas.com/world/showthread.php?t=17265)
Wager: 200 in favor of Massacre, 1:1 odds.

[Destrudo]

Battle: Destrudo vs. Massacre (http://althanas.com/world/showthread.php?t=17265)
Wager: 200 in favor of Massacre, 1:1 odds.

As the defending warrior, I have full confidence in my abilities. I'll take it, since I would not in fact, be betting against myself by doing so, as per the rules.

[shinigami_90]

ehh honestly ill join the action

Battle: Destrudo Vs. Massacre
Wager: 100 in favor of Destrudo winning