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    Gisela Open Rules & Regulations


    INTRODUCTION


    What is the Gisela? It's a tournament where you and your opponent have access to a large army up to 10,000 units strong. Both sides clash on the battlefield using military tactics and strategies to best one another. Amidst the footmen, each army is allowed three special heroes they can use to turn the tide of battle. At the end, only one victor stands either by total annihilation, surrender, or eliminating key leadership figures.


    REGISTRATION COST

    Since the implementation of Althanas Points (AP), it is now mandatory that applicants wager their AP as a means to enter official tournaments. This is to offset the cost of full judgments and staff work necessary to run the event. To enter this year's competition each member will agree to pay 5 AP to enter the tournament. By posting in the registration thread, you are agreeing to this deduction after your armies have been approved and the tournament has begun.


    REGISTRATION

    Upon registration, players will detail EACH of the troops in their armies. This includes the type of troop (infantry, etc.), its weapon and armor, and any special abilities. Troop should be about as strong as a level 1 to level 3 character. Troop equipment is to be no stronger than iron or steel.

    In addition to the regular army, players are given 3 “hero” characters. These heroes are equivalent in power to a level 9 character and can be used in anyway a player wants. If the player wishes to use their own character, it will be used at the current level during the registration. Any hero beside your own character will be allowed up to three abilities to be detailed upon registration. Hero stats are assumed higher than traditional troops and can be detailed should you decide. Hero equipment will be no stronger than delyn unless your own character is used. The Registration Rules will be detailed further in the Registration thread.


    NUMBER OF PARTICIPANTS
    Registration for the Gisela Open is limited to 24 players. Multiple characters will not be allowed. This is to maintain activity rather than to give everyone who wants to participate an opportunity to do so. Additionally, multiple characters can be “heroes” as described below. Meaning, you may borrow information from other player profiles to use as heroes in your army. Please ask permission prior to doing this. If a player does not wish to be used in an army and notifies Max Dirks or myself, you will be told to remove said hero or forfeit the tournament.


    NUMBER OF TROOPS
    The maximum number of troops allowed per army is 10,000 not including "Heroes" (though less will be acceptable).


    FORMAT
    Gisela is an area in Corone where the first tournament took place. Since then, the tournament has broadened its locations throughout Althanas. The first player to post in their respective matches will be able to dictate the general setting such as climate, major landmarks, regional location, etc. They are permitted to detail the locations of their own troops, but must leave enough creative freedom for their opponent to detail their own layout. Meaning, the first player cannot position themselves in a valley within a mountain and only one bottleneck passage which only leads to a sheer cliff. While the thread could eventually work itself into such a scenario, it cannot start in a way that gives an unfair advantage to one side or the other. This will be scrutinized in the judgments.

    The objective is to conquer each army in the sub-region to advance to the next “round.” Battles will be conducted in a war style, where troops may travel to multiple locations to defeat opposing troops and can continue moving to other locations if desired. LIQUID TIME WILL NOT EXIST FOR THIS TOURNAMENT. Thus troops can only be in one location at a time. Additionally, preset ambushes or scouted knowledge is not permitted until after the first posts have been made by both parties. If scouts are deployed and awaiting return, it must be mentioned in the first posts so your opponents have an opportunity to challenge the "free" tactical advantage.

    TROOP MOVEMENT
    In order for troops (either an individual, or a group) to move to a new location, they MUST wait an entire “turn” before they can appear in the next location. A “turn” means that everyone else in the group has posted once or that player has waited 2 full days before posting again (in the case of absences). This is to allow another player chance to respond to the movement. If a player who already has troops in the area responds to the movement, the player with the moving troops is instantly allowed into the location in lieu of the aforementioned “turn” requirements. Meaning, if your troops are on the way to a village in your post and your opponents troops in that village begin to engage or prepare for arrival, it is assumed your army arrives during or at the end of your opponents post.

    Players will indicate what location troops are moving to as OOC notes in each thread. For example Archers are going from Fortress A to Forest B, and Archers have arrived from Fortress A to Location B. This helps to eliminate any confusing or unclear troop movement in your IC posts.


    TROOP DEATH
    If a troop dies in combat, that troop is dead for the remainder of the tournament (special abilities withstanding) and cannot be revived. Only heroes will be revived between “rounds.”

    TROOP ASSIMILATION/RETREAT
    Players are allowed to create alliances and do other creative things necessary to win. In the event of an alliance existing at the end of a “round”, players have an opportunity to assimilate all alliance members into their army up to a total of 1,000 troops. Additionally, Players are allowed to recruit some living non-retreat status enemy troops up to a total of 1,000 troops. Players may opt for retreat status at the end of the round by indicating such. In retreat status, those troops are considered lost or un-recruitable/un-captureable. In the event that a player in retreat status wins the round, he will only be entitled to replenish with troops from any in-thread alliances. Units in retreat must be stated during final posts of the match or they are assumed to be engaged in combat or pursuit-able.

    Assimilation exists as a means to replenish massive troop losses. Players are also NOT required to use assimilation.

    “ROUND” LENGTH
    Each round will last for 3 weeks.


    JUDGMENT
    Each player will be judged by their performance each “round.” As in previous Gisela tournaments, the rubric will be slightly skewed towards strategy. In the Story category, story will be worth 15 points. In the Character category, action will be worth 15 points. There will be no wildcard score. Typical wildcard elements will be determined within the individual categories.

    Per usual, the player with the highest score advances to the next “round.”

    EXP is based on the typical EXP formula (utilizing the highest leveled participant).
    REWARDS
    First Place- 5,000 EXP & 20 AP

    Second Place- 2,500 EXP & 15 AP

    Third Place- 1,500 EXP & 10 AP

    Third place goes to highest score of the semi-final round.

    OTHER FEATURES
    Gambling will be opened in a separate pinned thread. Bets will be for one week after the start of each match. Tournament placement bets will be open for only one week after the official start of the tournament.

    Those are the rules. Please read them slowly, as a quick glance will surely confuse most. Please post all questions as a reply to this thread. Registration will begin on January 9th, 2018 at 12 AM CST.

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    Rules Update: 01/04/2018 [10:22AM MST]
    The AP rewards have been reduced as follows:
    First Place from 50 to 20
    Second Place from 25 to 10
    Third Place from 15 to 5
    AP registration cost has been added at 5 AP per participant.

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    Lye, with Philomel being what she is with Delath and Veridian, are they permitted on also, with their abilities as detailed in her profile? Would I be permitted to separate them and have them with units, for instance, yet still at their power as stated in her profile?

    Also with the special units that are equal to three standard units, I remember last time there was some rule or other about there being allowed only one or two of these types. Is there a limit to how many special units we can have, or what number within those units we can have?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philomel View Post
    Lye, with Philomel being what she is with Delath and Veridian, are they permitted on also, with their abilities as detailed in her profile? Would I be permitted to separate them and have them with units, for instance, yet still at their power as stated in her profile?
    You are permitted only your main character as a hero as described and approved in your profile. Any other hero or troop unit must conform to the restrictions. This would go the same for accounts that may have two people sharing the same profile/powers, or familiars in any capacity. For example, the Tantalus Troop could only have one of its members as the "as approved" hero, all other members would need to conform to the level 9 and 3 ability cap.

    Also with the special units that are equal to three standard units, I remember last time there was some rule or other about there being allowed only one or two of these types. Is there a limit to how many special units we can have, or what number within those units we can have?
    As of right now, there is no cap. Theoretically, you could pit 3,333 large golems against 10,000 standard troops. Again, the format would still need to be approved by both Max Dirks and myself. So, depending on description and powers, we may need to impose additional restrictions to keep the playing field fair. In short, it is allowed and will be reviewed on a case by case basis.

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    Okay so then I am going to be at a massive disadvantage if I use Philomel, as much of her approved force/PL comes alongside Veridian and Delath. Her approved profile is with them as familiars. This is quite different from the Tantalus Troupe who all have their separate profiles.

    In this case are you saying I can only have Philomel herself, not Delath and Veridian? Delath often acts as a mount for her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philomel View Post
    Okay so then I am going to be at a massive disadvantage if I use Philomel, as much of her force comes alongside Veridian and Delath. Her approved profile is with them as familiars. This is quite different from the Tantalus Troupe who all have their separate profiles.

    In this case are you saying I can only have Philomel herself, not Delath and Veridian?
    If you were permitted with three Heroes for the price of one or split over all three slots at an increased level/ability cap, you'd be putting your opponents at a similar disadvantage. There will also be players operating with main characters under the level 9 cap who are unable to scale up. It is also important to note that despite the clear advantage one character has over other normal characters, the battle contains thousands of units which drastically diminish the effectiveness of a single, lone hero.

    So yes, you may only use Philomel as the main hero. However, if these other characters are indeed approved familiars that fall under the main character's profile, they are permitted in battle but only as described on your profile. They technically will not count toward unit cost or hero cost, but will be scrutinized in their usage during judgment. Unfair usage may result in a penalty. An example of this is effectively adding additional generals or spreading one character's full strength across the battlefield with no repercussions in relation to distance, exhaustion, duration, etc. Since players may use things like messenger birds to relay information across the battlefield, similar usages of familiars are of no consequence.

    Does that answer the question? I'm afraid I'm not intimately familiar with your profile and a struggling to understand the question.

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    Sorry for the confusion.

    Philomel's profile has Delath and Veridian as set familiars, that fall under her TPL limit. Much of her character is as a sort of summoner, with Veridian and Delath acting as if they were a horse or other that one might ride in battle. Philomel is the hero, but Veridian and Delath act as approved extras. They are also separate entities - bodies - that can attack from other directions of herself. They have a mental connection that allows communication between them. Philomel by herself is fairly powerful. They will of course act as detailed in her profile.

    Philomel by herself works out about a level 6 character (approximate guess) all the remaining TPL in her profile are used by Delath and Veridian. I was just trying to see if they themselves were permitted on the field as well, and since there is no limit to how far they can be from Philomel, if they were alright to attack alongside a separate unit than Philomel herself, for instance. Does that make more sense?

    Sorry for the confusion. I was trying to clarify this for others who also have familiars as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philomel View Post
    Sorry for the confusion.

    Philomel's profile has Delath and Veridian as set familiars, that fall under her TPL limit. Much of her character is as a sort of summoner, with Veridian and Delath acting as if they were a horse or other that one might ride in battle. Philomel is the hero, but Veridian and Delath act as approved extras. They are also separate entities - bodies - that can attack from other directions of herself. They have a mental connection that allows communication between them. Philomel by herself is fairly powerful. They will of course act as detailed in her profile.

    Philomel by herself works out about a level 6 character (approximate guess) all the remaining TPL in her profile are used by Delath and Veridian. I was just trying to see if they themselves were permitted on the field as well, and since there is no limit to how far they can be from Philomel, if they were alright to attack alongside a separate unit than Philomel herself, for instance. Does that make more sense?

    Sorry for the confusion. I was trying to clarify this for others who also have familiars as well.
    As long as they act as approved in your profile, you can use them in battle as you like. From an ROG perspective, it seems a little wonky that these familiars can be any distance from her with no penalty while simultaneously linked. I can also only assume that Philomel wouldn't share any strain, damage, or fatigue that these units might impose on her throughout a fight? If that's what was approved, then its permitted. It would then beg the question to take a closer look at how familiars are handled.

    So in short, familiars do not cost a unit. They are considered one of your main character's abilities. They can be "transformed" into heroes but must then be omitted from your main character's abilities and conform to the NPC hero rules above. Misuse of familiars in an unfair way or outside of your profile's context on the battlefield will be scrutinized as powergaming.

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    She has no damage, no, aside from when Veridian dies she suffers immense pain and sorrow and is basically just a blubbering mess.
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    Hey Lye. This is my first time registering for a Gisela tournament, so forgive my ignorance, but am I to take it that the three hero characters we are allowed cannot be played by writers on the site? So for example, say the Brotherhood has Storm Veritas and Breaker as hero characters. They can't be played via their respective writers, right?

    It seems obvious to me it would be a no but there was talk we could team up, and I wasn't so sure. I read the rules (I think fully) but couldn't see anything about it (other than we can use them with writer permission).

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