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Letho
01-17-08, 05:15 PM
In December, 3D Realms released a teaser (http://www.3drealms.com/duke4/) of a game that's in development for some seven years now. A very lousy teaser. All the same, this is the first sign that something is actually happening with the next installment of the Duke. Is this just 3D Realms drawing attention to themselves, thinking there's no such thing as bad publicity, so they whore the dead and buried Duke just so people look their way again? Or are they actually working on the game that became the Godot of the gaming world?

I'm a believer, God help me. Duke Nukem 3D was one of the first FPSs I played and definitely the first FPS I played in multiplayer against real live people. And Duke Nukem was badass. And regardless of the fact that the release date of the DNF is "when it's done" and it's been like that for like half a decade, I still believe that we'll see Duke again.

How about you? Are there people here who still remember the musclebound macho with a fistful of dollars and cheesy one-liners? Or are those one-liners falling on deaf ears these days?

The Writing Writer
01-17-08, 05:28 PM
Honestly, if a games been in production that long without any notable changes, it's been or is going to be scrapped.

Letho
01-17-08, 05:36 PM
There have been notable changes. The problem is that there were too many. They rewritten the whole thing several times, changed game engines, all because of the delay. And they are constantly claiming that they are still working on it.

Keep in mind that this is 3D Realms we're talking about. Their latest game, Prey, was first announced way, way back, almost as far back as the DNF. It too went through a lot of changes and believed to be dead until it came out a year and a half ago.

Empyrean
01-17-08, 05:42 PM
Duke Nukem, seriously?? Holy crap, if there's a chance it could happen, I say it could happen. And it should.

Bloodrose
01-17-08, 05:47 PM
Ah, Duke Nukem Forever, one of the original "Vaporwares..."

I remember playing Duke 3D back on my original Win95 machine, and I was playing Duke Matches well into college. It's a timeless classic.

And really, this (http://duke.a-13.net/?080907) is the only guide one needs to see just what's happened with DNF since it was announced.

It even has a nice list of things that have happened during the time period of DNF's development.

Slayer of the Rot
01-17-08, 05:55 PM
Is this Battletoads?

Godhand
01-17-08, 05:56 PM
Goddamnit Dan you son of a bitch! Quit stealing my bit!

Letho
01-17-08, 06:12 PM
Ah, Duke Nukem Forever, one of the original "Vaporwares..."

I remember playing Duke 3D back on my original Win95 machine, and I was playing Duke Matches well into college. It's a timeless classic.

And really, this (http://duke.a-13.net/?080907) is the only guide one needs to see just what's happened with DNF since it was announced.

It even has a nice list of things that have happened during the time period of DNF's development.This made me laugh:
Things that have taken less time than Duke Nukem Forever's Development:
* The American War for Independence
* The United States Civil War
* World War I
* The United State's involvement in the Vietnam War.
* World War II and the entire Manhattan Project. Yes, even the complete development of the atomic bomb took less time.:D

That means that DNF is going to be an even bigger blast then the A-bomb.

Reiko
01-17-08, 08:13 PM
I have a bad feeling that Duke Nuke 'Em Forever's going to be another Daikatana if it ever gets released. Too much happened that it will probably mean the game will be anything but solid.

Saxon
01-17-08, 09:12 PM
That means that DNF is going to be an even bigger blast then the A-bomb

One would like to hope, eh?

I used to play Duke Nukem way back when and it was the first time I found out that my Dad couldn't play games that spin a lot or else he hurls. I have another friend with the same problem.

Just makes FPS games like Duke and Turok all the sweeter when you know epileptics and people with motion sickness can't stand them. ;)

BlackAndBlueEyes
01-17-08, 09:15 PM
It'll come out on my grandkid's birthday.

Lavinian Ambition
01-17-08, 09:50 PM
I used to play Duke Nukem 64 all the time at a friends house. We had some seriously good matches. But seriously...it needs to end. The jerking needs to end, either launch it or not, but no more teasing.

Corvus MacCallum
01-17-08, 10:59 PM
Would be great if they gave up all the info on the previous versions of Forever when the game finally rears its head out of development and gets on shelves, on the bright side, this one definately looks for this day and age, the 2001 version seemed alright but a touch primitive even then, the 1998 one seemed way advanced for its time.

Lachan
01-18-08, 02:32 AM
I hope it gets released in my lifetime, I still play duke nukem 3D...and the first doom for that matter...and battletoads

AdventWings
01-18-08, 03:59 AM
Played the 2001 one.

Wasn't impressed. Then again, I was more hyped over traditional realistic shooters like Counter-Strike and Rainbow Six.

However, I do hope 3D Realm learned something from Prey. That game was, like, totally sw33t.

Letho
01-18-08, 04:37 AM
Wasn't impressed. Then again, I was more hyped over traditional realistic shooters like Counter-Strike and Rainbow Six.Speaking of that, if DNF ever gets released, do any of you think it has something to offer to the gaming world of today? I mean, the dawn of the FPSs, when everything went (and I mean everything), is way behind us. The market is dominated by intelligent FPSs (Half-Life 2, Bioshock), damn right graphically perfect ones (like Crysis, which, truthfully, runs in a healthy framerate at high details at like ten computers in the world, but still) and online oriented ones (like Unreal Tournament, Battlefield, Quake Wars). Where does the Duke come in? The concept from the last installment has little chance of attracting today's players. Though I'd still buy it, even if it's the same as last time. :P

Ashiakin
01-18-08, 12:48 PM
I remember the days of Duke Nukem 3D (and don't forget the Duke Nukem platform shooters, those were great!) Blowing up pig aliens in a porn shop and mowing down strippers with a chain gun... What more could a thirteen year old boy want?

I think Letho is onto something with his last post, though. It'll probably end up being like the later Doom games: kind of cool and occasionally innovative, but not fundamentally different enough from the first one to really matter. Duke Nukem Forever is sort of the Chinese Democracy of the gaming world (no one cares and no one will when it comes out.) Honestly, I doubt I'll play it if/when it does.

Corvus MacCallum
01-18-08, 05:52 PM
Its pretty obvious in the previous trailers they'd been trying to put in as many different set peices as they could. Like for example in the 1998 one theres blasting your way out of a hanger using a fighter planes guns, blasting through an air armada, blasting apart badly built buildings, various vehicle mishaps.

Back then that stuff wasn't really done en masse until after Half-life which came out a year later. The 2001 seemed to pumping in new functions and even better set peices, like tearing down a highway in Vegas, physical shields, torturing bug aliens by hand, being much more interactive with the enviroment and even giving Duke a body (Something that didn't get properly done until FEAR).

The plot will likely always be Duke VS Aliens with many weapons but theres a lot of evidence of trying to put as many cool tweaks and functions in it to prevent it being a blind run and gun.