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Hi everyone.
I'm just curious as we pass into the second week of this war about some things.
Taskmienster
03-11-08, 12:01 AM
I'm kinda bored... to be honest. Things aren't moving as fast as I thought, some people are being really slow at posting... but who knows. Given a week something might pick up, I know I'm about to throw Ranger into the fray a little more for sure, so we'll see.
BlackAndBlueEyes
03-11-08, 12:04 AM
Frankly, all that OOC crap turned me away from it and I just haven't cared much to follow it since that one really long thread.
Taskmienster
03-11-08, 12:08 AM
Ooh, I should have voted for that... heh. Since that's my opinion, but whatev.
Dissinger
03-11-08, 12:10 AM
Its about to heat up, thats all I'll say, though group one has more momentum than group 2. I think its the whole waiting for people thing.
Witchblade
03-11-08, 12:12 AM
It's all OOC and just pointless, even though Im in on it on both sides of the playing field and there a chance a small conversation I had with a certain someone was the breaking point that got the boulder rolling on the whole thing. >.>
I'm kind of bored with it though, because there's no IC reason behind the whole thing do it falls rather flat instead of becoming something extremely dynamic and interesting.
Ataraxis
03-11-08, 12:25 AM
I'm a factor accounting for the slowness. I don't think I'm allowed to vote.
Dissinger
03-11-08, 01:32 AM
After the latest post, I'm not sure how I feel about this war anymore...
Needless to say, my enthusiasm for the coming fight with ranger was curbed.
Taskmienster
03-11-08, 02:06 AM
Oh, my friend, we're still throwing down. Screw the war and the OOC stuff, I'm excited to fight you again. lol. I mean, ToW you won, LCC I won... now it's the tie breaker if you will.
Lavinian Ambition
03-11-08, 02:11 AM
Oh, my friend, we're still throwing down. Screw the war and the OOC stuff, I'm excited to fight you again. lol. I mean, ToW you won, LCC I won... now it's the tie breaker if you will.
Better get Sorahn a tub of popcorn, this'll be one for the ages.
Ehhh... I can't help thinking that the groups were broken up badly. I think things might have gone better if there were better match ups in group two. Everyone is just kinda sitting around wondering why the hell they're there.
Tsukiko
03-11-08, 08:45 AM
to be honest I'll have to go with it's OOC and pointless. No offense to anyone, this was the same problem with the last clan war. You get big threads where all the writers just try to out do each other for the whole thing and it just feels boring and pointless.
Another thing that bugs me with these wars is that there's always a group of super healers nearby to bring everyone back to life. It's hard to care about a chaotic battle when everyone will be peachy fine when it's done no matter how traumatic the death is. Really it probably would be better off as a mini tournament where things are organized, at least things won't be fragmented and it'd make more sense to have people go to the citadel to settle the score than to have an attack and there to be some of the most powerful healers sitting around to remove consequences. Maybe if there was more an IC reason I'd find myself caring who won but really it seems to be just to have a clan war and isn't even for an HQ, though it is likely someone will get an HQ from it.
Godhand
03-11-08, 08:54 AM
Another thing that bugs me with these wars is that there's always a group of super healers nearby to bring everyone back to life. It's hard to care about a chaotic battle when everyone will be peachy fine when it's done no matter how traumatic the death is.
That was totally not what I wanted to do.
Slayer of the Rot
03-11-08, 08:56 AM
You get big threads where all the writers just try to out do each other for the whole thing and it just feels boring and pointless.
Er, isn't that what all battle threads are? Tournament, War, Theater of War, Citadel? Writers trying to outdo each other to get a better score?
Tsukiko
03-11-08, 09:25 AM
Er, isn't that what all battle threads are? Tournament, War, Theater of War, Citadel? Writers trying to outdo each other to get a better score?
you're right for the most part and it's why I rarely do battles. But sometimes in small battles there can be a friendly competition where the parties care about just having a good and fun fight scene. And while there are a couple trying to do that in the clan war it's buried in everyone else's clash of egos.
And on that note...isn't this a game? And aren't games in some way, shape, or form, about competition and winning? There aren't many games you play just to play; there's always a goal to be had. Same with Althanas. If that bothers you, sorry, but welcome to the game.
EDIT: And damn straight it's a clash of egos! Just like in sports, when the best players are competing, they always trash talk. It's human nature, the carnal's desire to be superior to another human...
Now I'm gonna go write my next post in Group One. I'm having way more fun than I've had in years on here!!!
Slayer of the Rot
03-11-08, 09:51 AM
Yeah, I'm having a lot of fun in this war.
Tsukiko: If it's a clash of egos in the IC clan war threads then that's because the character's personality calls for it. If there's a problem with the character's personalities and you think they shouldn't be like that, then there's no point to Althanas whatsoever.
And Logan is correct. Before anything else, this is a game, and people should remember that. When it starts to feel like a chore and it loses it's enjoyability you're doing something wrong.
Lol. I just realized, Dan...we actually agreed on something. My God, it's the end of the world -- and sadly, Althanas -- as we know it! RUUUUUUUUUUUNNNNNN!!!!!
Seriously though, some of us have fun in different ways. If fighting isn't your cup of tea, cool, go quest and be merry. Some of us enjoy the adrenaline rush we get when our characters (the ones we labor over at times) get into situations that require serious thought. There is something of a rush of emotion when you read a quality judgement on a thread you worked laboriously over for weeks. It's beyond anticipation, it's pure adrenline.
And then you read the judgement and it's a rush of satisfaction for a job well done, or a resolve to fix the mistakes you made and work on the problems and a determination to show you can do better the next go around.
It's why we're all here, really. It's what drives us to write in the manner we write in.
My God I sound philosophical all of a sudden...
psst...Dan...I thought you should know...I posted...
Bloodrose
03-11-08, 11:09 AM
Am I the only one who said it's fun?
I love a good battle, and all out brawls amongst some of Althanas' resident heavyweights is just good times in my opinion.
A Nony Mouse
03-11-08, 11:09 AM
Seriously though, some of us have fun in different ways. If fighting isn't your cup of tea, cool, go quest and be merry. Some of us enjoy the adrenaline rush we get when our characters (the ones we labor over at times) get into situations that require serious thought. There is something of a rush of emotion when you read a quality judgement on a thread you worked laboriously over for weeks. It's beyond anticipation, it's pure adrenline.
I agree. I love battling, but the clan war just isn't for me. This doesn't mean I think we should get rid of it; good for those of you having a good time! So "go clan war and be merry".
Caden Law
03-11-08, 11:14 AM
Speaking from the sidelines: It's boring.
The solution to this problem is simple: Godhand vs. Dirks in a no holds barred deathmatch fought using flaming chainsaws and small, helpless woodland creatures.
Would sure as hell beat the lolcat crowd and the group-wide I AM BETTER, HEAR ME YAWN thing that seems to be going on now :p
In my opinion, clan wars aren't meant to get EVERYONE involved. Now, granted, they may bring in a pretty hefty crowd of competitors, like a tournament, but there will always be some people who just don't participate for IC reasons or otherwise. However, this particular war does seem relatively lame, but welcome to Althanas :-p I kid, I kid.
Seriously, the stuff on Althanas, from battles and quests to the Tournament of Champions, is all what you make of it. If you don't participate, then you won't get sucked into the little storylines that develop out of thin air and the wonderful drama between lovers positioned against one another. You miss out on the intracacies of the little battles that equate to the big war.
What am I really saying? The Clan War is fun for those of us in it and involved, but it probably is lame and boring for the rest of you. I don't get a rush when I read stuff other people post if I'm not involved in it in some way or form (except for the current Conquest Trials Army Battle between Christoph and Dirks -- but that porbably is because my char IS involved, lol). I get the rush when Logan's in the action and doing stuff.
So yeah...I think all that was kinda already said, but the point is in there somewhere. Hehe. Work makes me giddy in a weird, bored like hell sort of way!
I think one of the problems is that most of the main players for the NWO (Godhand, Slayer, even the Company PG leader Bloodrose) are all in group one. And they are fighting fiercely and the defenders all get to be righteously indignant. - they're having fun.
Most of group two is the hired help against the Imperial clan leader and her bodyguards. And they are all pretty much like "Uhh... we got hired to gelp Godhand/Came with Bloodrose... where are they?" and have no real imperitive reason to keep attacking. And the defenders are standing in front of the thing they are defending and are smart enough not to get lured away from it. And, ICly, we can't charge around her and go in. Which would probably be the most logical action, take the building and make them root us out. But we're not allowed to involve the house so....
Godhand
03-11-08, 01:14 PM
Totally, totally not what I wanted to do.
Lol. I hate to say it, but it sounds like strategy is playing a bigger role in this thing than first thought. Perhaps ya'll should just try something? I mean...you can't do anything if you do nothing. Right?
If it wasn't specifically said (http://www.althanas.com/world/showthread.php?t=12837&page=4) that the manor wasn't in the war, Hashi would be sneaking around to raid the wine cellars. After all, she has no specific beef with any Imperial, doesn't honestly know who's who and isn't the waring type. She showed up to fight beside the leaders of the nWo, none of whom are there. Except Diss, and well, he'd one scary mofo and doesn't need her help. And she's not retarded enough to run in front of a guy throwing Molotovs and a spray of burning glass to be the only one attacking something like 5 people apparently standing in a cluster. If things just kind of keep fizzling like this I'm going to have her sit under a tree and fix a sandwich.
I'm just saying...it sounds like the overall strategy is working like it should. I know it's boring, but...try and get creative. Hear a rustling in the bushes nearby...go attack the rustling only to find it was nothing. Remember, ICly winning isn't NEARLY as satisfying as OOCly winning. Trust me.
Woshington
03-11-08, 02:14 PM
The challenge is to make it more IC than OOC. That's something we do every time we post, I mean.. we make things make sense IC. It's possible to succeed and fail, but it's not doomed to fail from the start, which is the attitude a lot of people seem to have.
Yep. And another thing, while the magic is protecting you from being able to hit up the house, does your character ICly know that? What's to stop them from trying? Sure, they'll get repelled, but think of the fun you could have playing THAT out! Instant DEATH! Just kidding. Come on...live a little...or die a little. Whatever, really.
Godhand
03-11-08, 02:22 PM
I suggest you stop worrying about what my friends do and start worrying about what I do. Once this thing with Letho is finished, guess who I'm going for?
Um...Xalstad? :-p Am I to be afraid of the big bad Mr. Striker? :-) Seriously, I welcome the challenge. Although, I think Dan alone is enough. Heck, I'm already having to avoid attacks from Teric, too. But, really, what's another level 6/7 against a level 2? You can take Logan's life, but you'll never take his FREEDOM! *think Braveheart people*
:-) Seriously. Just have fun everyone. It's a big reason why Althanas rocks.
And another thing, I'm not trying to get up in their business, but they said things were moving slowly on their end, so I was offering advice. I apologize if that rubbed you the wrong way, or came across as arrogant. I know I'm arrogant though, so you know, I deal with it as it is. Sorry...
Cyrus the virus
03-11-08, 03:12 PM
Yeesh. It's a clan war for the fun of it. Of course it's fun.
Group Two is fine. The challenge is in giving your character a reason for feeling the way he/she does, that's it. Iz is there because he's been hired, but he has so much integrity that he'll just about fight to the death. There's some passion. If someone writes with me then we can write a fun battle.
And Reiko is completely right about the super healers thing. It takes away all of the drama, I believe. I understand their purpose, since we've got level 8s meshing with level 0-1s, but meh. Your character would only die if you wanted him or her to.
I suggest you stop worrying about what my friends do and start worrying about what I do. Once this thing with Letho is finished, guess who I'm going for?Nobody. Cause you'll be dead, old man. :cool:
Godhand
03-11-08, 05:14 PM
I chose not to say "Once I'm done with Letho" but now I'm going to say it.
Once I'm done with Letho, I'm going for Logan.
You and whose army? Cause just the NWO's ain't going to cut it.
Godhand
03-11-08, 05:18 PM
Just me is all it'll take.
Less talk, more walk, Croat.
The way I see it, the only way Godhand's coming for Logan is if he takes a swan dive into the water below...*grins* so...Godhand...why don't you go take a flying leap...JUST kidding. This war is great.
Slayer of the Rot
03-11-08, 06:11 PM
I agree with Godhand. Letho might try to fight back but Godhand is gonna be like
UNGH!
UNGH!
UNGH!
Like a majestic fountain!
Seriously this war is a lot of fucking fun. It's rare I get to cut loose with Dan and I'm getting the chance to now.
Rayse Valentino
03-11-08, 06:17 PM
You're all fatties. Poll closed.
Caden Law
03-11-08, 11:44 PM
I amend my previous suggestion as a full-blown demand.
Godhand vs. Dirks vs. Letho. Flaming chainsaw deathmatch.
Make it happen.
How the hell is Logan not in that match?! Come on...someone needs to kick the ass.
Caden Law
03-12-08, 05:37 AM
How the hell is Logan not in that match?! Come on...someone needs to kick the ass.
Dirks is in because, last I checked, he was an Imperial.
Godhand is in because he's N.W.O. and I can see him killing people with a flaming chainsaw.
Letho is in because he's basically the mutant freak ass-baby Hercules and Leonidas repeatedly raping each other until the laws of physics broke.
Comparitively, I don't even know who you are. D:
Raelyse
03-12-08, 06:46 AM
Raelyse hasn't even BEGUN to bring it. Prepare to die, fuckers.
Oh well, you make good points there. I guess I'll go back to being someone you don't know...I prefer it that way. Makes your death more enjoyable ;-)
Max Dirks
03-12-08, 10:15 AM
Dirks is in because, last I checked, he was an Imperial.Um...check again. Dirks has never been a part of Imperial. Like Serilliant to the Company, Dirks is merely a financial backer. His group is Vice.
You mean Sighter to the Company?
Max Dirks
03-12-08, 10:22 AM
You mean Sighter to the Company?Nope. I'm pretty sure that Serilliant is funding this war in one way or another. I just assume its VIA the Company rather than the NWO.
Bloodrose
03-12-08, 11:09 AM
Serilliant could certainly buy a boatload of shares with all that cash of his, but his involvement with The Company as of this post amounts to nil.
Sighter and Ashiakin are both onboard as shareholders, but you must know something I don't if you're pointing fingers at Serilliant.
Serilliant could certainly buy a boatload of shares with all that cash of his, but his involvement with The Company as of this post amounts to nil.
Sighter and Ashiakin are both onboard as shareholders, but you must know something I don't if you're pointing fingers at Serilliant.
He does. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionist_Occupation_Government)
Cyrus the virus
03-12-08, 02:28 PM
Son of a... I'm just going to have Iz stab you all in the spine since you ignored him.
Ashiakin
03-12-08, 06:41 PM
He does. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionist_Occupation_Government)
I really cannot express how great that post was.
Also I promise I will post by tomorrow. I think Cyrus attacked me?
Sighter Tnailog
03-12-08, 11:47 PM
Another thing that bugs me with these wars is that there's always a group of super healers nearby to bring everyone back to life.
If Findelfin falls only to wake up to find a monk of Ai'bron standing over him, he'll kill said monk. And he'll be proud of it too. The monks of Ai'bron have proven their corruption by agreeing to this little deal, hijacking a war for their own aggrandizement. They can protest that they just want to keep people from dying, but hell, Findelfin doesn't buy it.
Furthermore, if the monks really believe they're improving people's lives by creating a world in which violence lacks consequence, they're quite mistaken.
Cyrus the virus
03-12-08, 11:56 PM
Iz attacked you, and one other person attacked you.
Slayer of the Rot
03-13-08, 12:03 AM
aggrandizement
Big word, college boy.
Big word, college boy.Shit, I thought it was a typo. Sounds like medicine.
Sighter Tnailog
03-13-08, 08:48 AM
Both your vociferations are indubitably enervative.
Both your vociferations are indubitably enervative.
God you get me so hot with your fancy president talk.
EDIT: To be serious and not just talk about Jewish conspiracies (they use their Jew money to make the black man smuggle in drugs you know) or homoerotic laymanism, I believe this clan war is great fun if you're involved in it. I'm glad to see Althanas start to move away from the individualistic agenda so many seem to have, and try to start something we can all be involved in and remember for months to come.
I'm glad to see Althanas start to move away from the individualistic agenda so many seem to have, and try to start something we can all be involved in and remember for months to come.
You haven't been 'round here for very long, have ya?
Both your vociferations are indubitably enervative.
That makes my head hurt. I'm an engineer, and we know just enough english to explain what we need to explain.
But I can tell you that the Reynolds Transport theorem applied to mass states that the partial derivative with respect to time of the integral (over a control volume) of density with respect to volume plus the integral (over the surface of the control volume) of density times velocity of the fluid with relative to the control surface dotted with a unit normal vector with respect to area is equal to zero.
Or rather:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/8/a/e/8ae0dd2c4009cd36cc76531e47583500.png
Can I be a member of the Smart Club? :D
You haven't been 'round here for very long, have ya? Three years come July.
Can I be a member of the Smart Club? :D No. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analingus)
Wow dude I was just joking. I wasn't trying to insult you or be a jackass or anything. The only reason I said you must be new is because I consider the numerous tournaments (such as the conquest trials going on right now), all the clan wars in the past, as well as special features like the Theater of War were all made to get everyone involved together and have memorable battles. I assumed you hadn't seen these.
As for the Reynolds Transport Theorem, I just learned that in my fluid dynamics class and I was just using it to poke fun at Sighter for using big words. So linking to lewd wikipedia pages is not necessary.
Chill out man.
Wow dude I was just joking. I wasn't trying to insult you or be a jackass or anything. The only reason I said you must be new is because I consider the numerous tournaments (such as the conquest trials going on right now), all the clan wars in the past, as well as special features like the Theater of War were all made to get everyone involved together and have memorable battles. I assumed you hadn't seen these.
As for the Reynolds Transport Theorem, I just learned that in my fluid dynamics class and I was just using it to poke fun at Sighter for using big words. So linking to lewd wikipedia pages is not necessary.
Chill out man.
I was actually just joking too. I'm not entirely sure why you thought I was being aggressive in any way, as I think Anallingus is just a funny word.
However, I am going to raise the point that the Theater of War was nearing death by the time I joined, and most tournaments I was around fizzled out quickly.
Years back, I know Althanas had been much more group based when it comes to clan wars and storylines. However, one has to face the facts that Althanas has been, for the past 2-3, focused entirely on individual storylines, sometimes featuring small group quests.
Melancor
03-14-08, 12:38 AM
If I didn't know Angelic Malice any better (which I don't) I wouldn't take so seriously the manifestations of his pleasant sense of humor.
And now that we are talking about misunderstanding, No, I am not being sarcastic. Or am I when I say I am not....? No I'm not. Haha, just kidding! But really, no.
Anyhow, If I could If I could, I would probably change my vote to "it's fun". I originally voted for "It's good for Althanas" since being relatively new in Althanas hasn't stopped me from realizing that people complain about mass activities, that are not organized by the administration already, being boring. But I am actually having fun now, considering I was so mad at the NWO because I had to fight a war while I am still a battle-virgin. Go ahead, laugh, get it out of your systems, I'll be satisfied once this war is over, not worry though, I'll get myself some shiny protecting armor.
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Fine, It wasn't as eloquent as many of you oldies' rants, but still, bless the gods of double sense. :D
I must say, while my thought is still on it... Rooster by Alice in Chains is by far THE most perfect song for this entire fiasco.
"Here they come to snuff the rooster
Yeah here come the rooster, yeah
You know he aint gonna die
No, no, no, ya know he aint gonna die"
Cyrus the virus
03-14-08, 01:46 AM
Into the flood agaaaain
Same old trip it was baaaack thennnn
The Writing Writer
03-14-08, 07:31 PM
If I didn't know Angelic Malice any better (which I don't) I wouldn't take so seriously the manifestations of his pleasant sense of humor.
And now that we are talking about misunderstanding, No, I am not being sarcastic. Or am I when I say I am not....? No I'm not. Haha, just kidding! But really, no.
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