View Full Version : Most Underrated/Original Weapon?
Winterhair
07-17-08, 11:52 AM
Alright, the title should be self-explanatory. But I'll go on to explain anyways.
Everywhere you look, someone is using a sword, or a bow, or a dagger or their fists. Its like a custom. Why? They are simple and easy to use, and most popular from influences like television and anime.
What about the weapons that most people don't use, though? Personally, I think that of all of them, the sling is the most underrated weapon of all. I can think of many deadly enhancements and ways to use a sling, but most would prefer a bow and arrow to the rock and leather.
What about everybody else? What's your opinion?
Caden Law
07-17-08, 12:23 PM
Axes.
'nuff said.
Sighter Tnailog
07-17-08, 12:35 PM
Most would prefer a bow and arrow to the rock and leather.
That's because most prefer a form of military technology that superceded and rendered such simplistic weapons as the sling obsolete.
I mean, there's a reason why some weapons gain predominance, and it's because they work.
Nautilus
07-17-08, 12:40 PM
Bolas are pretty cool though.
Crystal Suncrest
07-17-08, 12:42 PM
One word.
Fork.
'Nuff said.
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Although I will admit the original off-althanas version of this character had a stranger weapon. A spoon.
Winterhair
07-17-08, 12:42 PM
That's because most prefer a form of military technology that superceded and rendered such simplistic weapons as the sling obsolete.
I mean, there's a reason why some weapons gain predominance, and it's because they work.
True, but I'd like to see someone use a sling someday. There are some advantages to using one over an bow and arrow, but those are rather obvious so I won't bother to point them out.
There are some advantages to using one over an bow and arrow, but those are rather obvious so I won't bother to point them out.
No, no. Please, could you indulge us all in some of the advantages? I for one am tingling with anticipation to know what manages to put the very weapon the legendary Mongols and Huns used on horseback to shame.
Really.
Thoracis
07-17-08, 01:16 PM
Staff
Winterhair
07-17-08, 01:20 PM
No, no. Please, could you indulge us all in some of the advantages? I for one am tingling with anticipation to know what manages to put the very weapon the legendary Mongols and Huns used on horseback to shame.
Really.
You make my pants dance.
a) Ammo is preeety easy to find.
b) Not very hard to make in a pinch. (Done it mahself.)
c) Nothing more satisfying than seeing someone's head implode from a well-placed rock. (Personal reasons. <.<)
d) When used correctly, a sling is even more accurate than a b&a. The heavier weight of the rock makes it so its path isn't distorted by wind or anything, and the kinetic energy is nearly as great as the other weapon.
Don't have anything against the ol' B n' A. Just sayin'.
Breaker
07-17-08, 02:14 PM
Fists are okay, but I prefer elbows, knees, open handed strikes, and grappling techniques ;)
As for weapons... the nunchaku is WAY underated; most people don't realize how much power it generates. Also the sword breaker... a weapon lots of people probably don't know about, but it's awesome.
PS, my otter character used a sling, back when I wrote with him. And he could make exploding rocks.
Zook Murnig
07-17-08, 02:17 PM
However it takes more training to use a sling effectively, as it doesn't work the way you would think. One doesn't swing the sling, (or sling it around), but rather whips the sling forward, launching the stone with better accuracy and greater power than if you threw the stone by hand.
I agree with Thoracis, there aren't enough staff users.
The Missing Link
07-17-08, 02:20 PM
Tonfas.
Isn't a Jitte a swordbreaker, or am I just hallucinating?
Still, I'm more surprised there aren't many more shields. I mean, there's a reason why they're still popular even today by riot officers and whatnot.
Bow and arrow somewhat. Spears are one that needs more people using them.
Axes sort of. I'd be more inclined to see a real warhammer though. Or perhaps even something like a pick or something.
I remember one of my other characters uses yarn as a weapon. Though it's closer to steel cables.
Nightstalker
07-17-08, 04:20 PM
I'm gonna have a blowgun after a few threads, as opposed to some sort of B&A.
"What's this old man?"
"Just my pipe."
Plus, in the tradition of real experts, he gets the ability to use anything at hand as a weapon. Sure their not as effective, but a Pen is mightier than the sword, for more reasons than one.
Who is going to take a harmless everyday pen from an old man? A sword is an obvious threat, a pen is not.
Winterhair
07-17-08, 04:22 PM
Isn't a Jitte a swordbreaker, or am I just hallucinating?
Still, I'm more surprised there aren't many more shields. I mean, there's a reason why they're still popular even today by riot officers and whatnot.
Bow and arrow somewhat. Spears are one that needs more people using them.
Axes sort of. I'd be more inclined to see a real warhammer though. Or perhaps even something like a pick or something.
I remember one of my other characters uses yarn as a weapon. Though it's closer to steel cables.
Artifex? o.O
I don't think a Jitte is a swordbreaker, just a weapon meant to counter swords. But I could be wrong, so nobody call me on that.
On shields--mostly for the same reason you don't see people wearing full body-suit armor on Althanas. People prefer agility over defense, mostly. But a light shield would definitely be put to good use, I agree.
I made a warhammer, but no one claimed it so its claimed by a NPC instead. ^^' Probably the same reason people don't wear bodysuit armor, even a greatsword can be swung faster than a warhammer. I guess its all about speed, when you come down to it.
What about chakrams? I saw that Dan had some, but I don't think he used them.
EDIT: Blowgun ftw.
Spears. I can't say that I've seen a lot of people choosing the spear as their weapon of choice. Halberds too. Polearms in general are rare. I figure it's because they're more difficult to lug around. I mean, you can strap pretty much every sword to your waist/back and go around with little thought about it while you write, whereas carrying around something that's seven feet long isn't the easiest thing to do. Also, polearms are more prone to getting damaged/destroyed because their shafts are mostly made of wood. And nobody likes to see the weapon they worked so hard for destroyed.
Blunt weaponry is generally in minority from what I can tell. People like their sharp and shiny stuff, I guess.
Spears. I can't say that I've seen a lot of people choosing the spear as their weapon of choice. Halberds too. Polearms in general are rare. I figure it's because they're more difficult to lug around. I mean, you can strap pretty much every sword to your waist/back and go around with little thought about it while you write, whereas carrying around something that's seven feet long isn't the easiest thing to do. Also, polearms are more prone to getting damaged/destroyed because their shafts are mostly made of wood. And nobody likes to see the weapon they worked so hard for destroyed.
Blunt weaponry is generally in minority from what I can tell. People like their sharp and shiny stuff, I guess.
SPEARS FTW!
FYI for the newbs, I've been using a polearm since I started on Althanas. Started with a scrap metal rod, then after I ground that into oblivion I moved to a triple bladed spear that I had forever. Recently upgraded to the most badass indestructible adamantium-like black spear with side blades. But to Letho, my newest spear was designed to solve exactly those problems. 1: Disappears into thin air and can be summoned instantly as needed, thus preventing carrying issues, plus makes it impossible to have your weapon taken / knocked out of your hand. 2: Indestructible. Though it took a 40 post epic solo to warrant that one, it was worth it.
About the blunt weaponry though... I switched to the spear from the pole simply because it was so hard to do damage with it. I guess if it was bigger and heavier it would've been better, but if someone has even thick clothing on, let alone armor, they were pretty much impervious. Blades are just scarier. People tend to imagine something with a blade as being "deadlier".
The spear is so awesome. See: 300. Awesome. Although Sorahn's fighting style uses the side blades more than the point for "slicing" attacks, so I guess it's more like a... halberd I think it's called? A sword on a stick. Something that can be swung. Lol don't know a whole lot about melee weaponry... I know a lot more about guns than knives, but I doubt the mods would approve my Barrett M82 .50 cal sniper rifle. Or they might approve it then laugh at me and say "Good luck finding .50 cal BMG rounds in the bazaar"
Anyways, David killed Goliath with a sling, which was pretty l33t. Ithermoss had an ANKH, and a dagger made out of salt, and I believe some sort of Zelda hookshot kind of launchable / retractable kinda thing. Pretty sweet.
Artifex Felicis
07-17-08, 06:30 PM
I'm actually surprised about blunt weaponry. I never used it since it never really fit Leon or any of my other characters too well. Though, in two occasions I've used a blunt one. I've always been surp[rised no one like Letho or Dan or godhand didn't use a mace or something. They were designed to simply crush and break bones. A hit to the helmeted head with even a baseball bat is more likely to cause serious harm then a sword in that instance.
Course, a polearm also has several huge advantages when fighting a spear. Especially reach. And with the "holy crap that is FAST" learning ability of most Althanas characters, I'm more surprised that people don't learn to use it and just figure a way to avoid carrying it.
On that note, how many people actually wear armor? And I don't mean cheap protection like Leon's jacket, but honest to God chainmail or plate or real leather armor or something?
Skie and Avery
07-17-08, 07:14 PM
Staff
I knew you had to at least lurk from time to time.
Morningstar.
Winterhair
07-17-08, 07:18 PM
Ooooh, the morningstar. Good stuff.
Garrote wire.
Godhand
07-17-08, 07:18 PM
The banhammer.
Mithra Reborn
07-17-08, 07:25 PM
list of weapons that deserve more love:
-Glaives
-Flails
-Rods
-Chains. yes. chain fighting.
On that note, how many people actually wear armor? And I don't mean cheap protection like Leon's jacket, but honest to God chainmail or plate or real leather armor or something?
My cousin Zieg dil' Tulfried wore full and totally complete titanium plate mail. Like I mean I think you might've been able to hit him in the armpit or something. That's it. It was REALLY annoying to fight him. Other than that though it's true that you don't see much serious armor.
-Chains. yes. chain fighting.
Total win. The badass-ness of this would reach astronomical levels.
The Banhammer
While totally epic, it would be impossible to use this without powergaming. Because the banhammer has the ability to smite anyone it touches, reducing them to smoldering ash. It may only be wielded by the mightest of gods and administrators.
Rahegalhoff
07-17-08, 09:33 PM
On that note, how many people actually wear armor? And I don't mean cheap protection like Leon's jacket, but honest to God chainmail or plate or real leather armor or something?
I'm going to have Platemail at level five. It depends on what path I take as to it's properties. Good has one set, Evil has another. There are few overlaps.
It comes with it's own special shield.
I can't tell you more than that, because I genuinly do not know what path Raggy's going to take.
Godhand
07-17-08, 09:38 PM
Fists are okay, but I prefer elbows, knees, open handed strikes, and grappling techniques ;)
I prefer punching people in the head.
Winterhair
07-17-08, 09:55 PM
I prefer punching people in the head.
I prefer making people's heads explode.
What about whips, or whip swords?
Mithra Reborn
07-17-08, 10:03 PM
What about whips, or whip swords?
whip sword? o.o how would that work?
Kohaku Ryuu
07-17-08, 10:15 PM
And, on that note, you have listed my favorite weapon, the Whip Sword! Not only can you attack from any angle, but you can cut deep too! Not to say that it's a reliable weapon in real life...a shame, but, just the idea behind it! And, if you were to enchant that with a wind ability to make blades or something, it would make life even easier!
Equation
07-17-08, 11:20 PM
Cwellan. And ten points to anyone who knows where that's from.
I like the person that dais garrote. Sexy weapon.
My vote is for the bolas, though. You can do alot to a foe in that moment he's untangling himself.
Seraphima
07-17-08, 11:27 PM
Atlatl.
Terminus Mortis
07-18-08, 12:55 AM
Hand grenades. Horseshoes and hand grenades.
Oh, and caltrops. More of a trap than a weapon, though.
Porcupine
07-18-08, 02:19 AM
I think people should try to incorporate their armor into their attacks.
Slayer of the Rot
07-18-08, 03:09 AM
Hand grenades. Horseshoes and hand grenades.
Oh, and caltrops. More of a trap than a weapon, though.
I used to use caltrops in combination with Slayer's Bond to trap people in a ring during fights. Or just to be a dick and summon them everywhere but Dan's feet.
As for an underrated/original weapon I'd like to see get more use...my vote goes for the urumi.
The Forgotten
07-18-08, 09:05 AM
What about the kusarigama? I had someone use that once.
This character uses a staff and and spear. There's just something about blunt force trauma to the head (armored or not) that makes fights go that much faster...
Christina Bredith
07-18-08, 10:59 AM
whip sword? o.o how would that work?
Easy. I have one!
whip sword? o.o how would that work?
Somebody needs to play more Soul Caliber.
Winterhair
07-18-08, 12:29 PM
Windmill Scythe. :D
Terminus Mortis
07-18-08, 04:15 PM
You know what I have yet to see here? Some 70mm Hellfire missiles. Oh, and a Bushmaster XM-15 E2 Tactical Carbine. Ooh, boy is that a nice rifle! We have one in the shop right now. RIS foregrip, pre-installed Picatinny scope mounts, a mil-tube carbine stock, and a nice 20-round blued steel magazine. Nice and shiny!
Rebellion
07-18-08, 04:27 PM
You know what I have yet to see here? Some 70mm Hellfire missiles. Oh, and a Bushmaster XM-15 E2 Tactical Carbine. Ooh, boy is that a nice rifle! We have one in the shop right now. RIS foregrip, pre-installed Picatinny scope mounts, a mil-tube carbine stock, and a nice 20-round blued steel magazine. Nice and shiny!
Dear gods do I hope that was sarcasm.
I agree--glaives are rare to see around here.
Terminus Mortis
07-18-08, 05:16 PM
Sarcasm? You should see the magazine on that rifle! Sooo shiny!
Poison. That's all you ever really need.
AdventWings
07-18-08, 09:46 PM
One of the merchants in the Bazaar has a Colt Peacemaker... >.>
I don't see anyone using a Katar, although I understand that it's generally most effective against primitive metal armor.
I'd also like to see someone actually fight with a shield. Not as in using it as a shield, but using it as a weapon. The Lantern Shield comes to mind, but its use would be more complicated than that and requires martial-arts training for effective combat.
...Come to think of it, a Missile Sling isn't all that hard to make or use... But the reason why you don't see one used by PCs is rather obvious.
Arcanafang
07-18-08, 09:58 PM
I'm going to have to say the smallsword. It's similar to the Rapier but it's a bit smaller. Oddly enough the weapon while having less reach was quicker and more effective than it's longer brother. No one seems to use fencing weapons anymore.
AdventWings
07-19-08, 02:32 AM
Well, what I think is very underrated is the simple steel longsword.
As far as I can see, almost anyone who started off with it will eventually desert if for something more powerful, such as a Mythril sword or Adamantine Claymore. A creative writer can have their steel weapon clash against higher-grade weapons, break, reforged, re-broken and reforged again while still retaining the simple yet effective design. Speaking from a pragmatic PoV, any weapon is good as long as it performs the function required.
However, the steel longsword is most overlooked due to its simple construction and initial value. It's comparable to a loyal mutt whose master perferred a Great Dane instead.
Actually, I'm amending my earlier statement. The most underused weapon:
The Prehensile Penis (armed with acid and blunt force trauma of course.) Hell, off the top of my head, I can only think of one person who has ever used it. Ever.
Rahegalhoff
07-19-08, 09:19 AM
I would like to see the shield used more as a weapon myself, which is why I, as a knight, have learned Shield Bash and employ a kite shield with spikes embedded in the front. True enough I haven't had chance to use it as such yet, I will in the future.
Rebellion
07-19-08, 07:26 PM
I would like to see the shield used more as a weapon myself, which is why I, as a knight, have learned Shield Bash and employ a kite shield with spikes embedded in the front. True enough I haven't had chance to use it as such yet, I will in the future.
300 it.
Not many people use scythes these days either. I gave my other account one, and I've seen one other on here with one. But thats about it.
Breaker
07-19-08, 08:26 PM
Probably because scythes really aren't that practical. They were an improvised weapon used by farmers, not a killing tool designed by soldiers. I'm not saying scythes aren't cool, and they definitely have some disarm potential, but I'd take an ordinary spear over a scythe any day.
Sighter Tnailog
07-19-08, 10:36 PM
I played a character a long time ago who used a halberd -- he was maybe one of my favorite characters ever. I should probably bring him back someday.
Sighter Tnailog
07-19-08, 10:49 PM
Also, this is what I have to say on whip swords.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=whip+sword&sourceid=mozilla-search
I demand the cheese wheel be used as a weapon.
Rebellion
07-19-08, 11:07 PM
I demand the cheese wheel be used as a weapon.
Christoph would probably do that.
What about throwing swords? Not daggers, but actually swords. Kinda like boomerangs. Unpractical, but it would be interesting if the character was trained in such a weapon.
They would be terribly poor. Throwing full swords at people seems like an expensive habit.
They would be terribly poor. Throwing full swords at people seems like an expensive habit.
Not neccessarily. If it could be enchanted to always magically fly back to the thrower's hand, then it would be modest at best, especially if the swords were altered somewhat to be good throwing weapons.
Sighter Tnailog
07-19-08, 11:16 PM
On tanthanas I made a character whose mission in life was to cleanse the unwashed masses of Althanas and whose weapons were a pair of wet bath towels he wielded as whips.
EDIT: I also recall a battle that Hyakureiki played once where he was fighting in a psychedelic arena that had random things floating around in it, and he ended up grabbing Lil' Bow Wow and chucking him at his opponent.
Rebellion
07-19-08, 11:17 PM
They would be terribly poor. Throwing full swords at people seems like an expensive habit.
What about hookshot swords, then? Shoot, impale, then slowly drag back to you to cut them down.
Maybe.
I need coffee.
Breaker
07-20-08, 01:20 AM
Pen, rolled up magazine, electrical chord, picture frame, hand towel.
Who can guess the pattern?
Nightstalker
07-20-08, 10:32 AM
Pen, rolled up magazine, electrical chord, picture frame, hand towel.
Who can guess the pattern?
*holds envelope to head*
What's an example of my next level Anything at hand skill?
*opens envelope*
I'm right! YAY!
*holds envelope to head*
What's an example of my next level Anything at hand skill?
*opens envelope*
I'm right! YAY!
Sadly...
...There has been a revote!
And the winner is...........
Jason Bourne. Sorry Nightstalker, better luck next year. =P
I still think the trident wins all!
Nightstalker
07-20-08, 12:25 PM
Sadly...
...There has been a revote!
And the winner is...........
Jason Bourne. Sorry Nightstalker, better luck next year. =P
I still think the trident wins all!
That in no manner changes anything from my post. It's still a solid example of what I have in mind with his anything at hand skill.
Breaker
07-20-08, 12:31 PM
That in no manner changes anything from my post. It's still a solid example of what I have in mind with his anything at hand skill.
One doesn't need a specific skill to use anything at hand.
Nightstalker
07-20-08, 12:34 PM
To use it as a deadly weapon with a degree of skill not found in the common man?
To be ably to pick up any nearby object and tranform it into a deadly and lethal weapon?
Rebellion
07-20-08, 01:57 PM
To use it as a deadly weapon with a degree of skill not found in the common man?
To be ably to pick up any nearby object and tranform it into a deadly and lethal weapon?
Yep.
Its Althanas.
On that note, what about throwing glaives?
Nightstalker
07-20-08, 04:03 PM
Yep.
Its Althanas.
On that note, what about throwing glaives?
Well, based on Number's reaction, you'd think everyone was able to pick up anything and have it become deadly in their hands. That seems to go against the fundamental nature of things.
Kially Gaith
07-20-08, 04:17 PM
And, on that note, you have listed my favorite weapon, the Whip Sword! Not only can you attack from any angle, but you can cut deep too! Not to say that it's a reliable weapon in real life...a shame, but, just the idea behind it! And, if you were to enchant that with a wind ability to make blades or something, it would make life even easier!
*Cough.*
Anyhow.
Other people. - Completely underrated.
Nothing better than sitting back and watching others kick the shit out of the enemy and hell, even if they fail, you at least had an amusing piece of entertainment before your own combat and your foe is tired out!
But...On a more serious note.
The naginata or the kusarigama. I may eventually have Kially use a summonable naginata, being that it is actually my personal preference. However, given the time frame we are in and that this is NOT japan, it'll be a weapon styled after a naginata but NOT a naginata. It'll just be a kickass polearm.
On the topic of underrated. Children. They'd probably make a good weapon too. Small, light. blunt impact. Why the hell not? I'm sure Godhand would approve.
On the topic of underrated. Children. They'd probably make a good weapon too. Small, light. blunt impact. Why the hell not? I'm sure Godhand would approve.
First pacifiers and now children as weapons. Yeah, you're not going to be on To Catch A Predator at all.
Breaker
07-20-08, 04:30 PM
... everyone was able to pick up anything and have it become deadly in their hands. That seems to go against the fundamental nature of things.
Actually, it goes right along with the fundamental nature of krav maga. It doesn't take much training to realize which objects in your surroundings can be used as effective weapons, or to know whcih regions of an enemy's body are best to attack.
Rebellion
07-20-08, 04:40 PM
Actually, it goes right along with the fundamental nature of krav maga. It doesn't take much training to realize which objects in your surroundings can be used as effective weapons, or to know whcih regions of an enemy's body are best to attack.
Aka...
"So I pick up THIS object by the non-pointy end and put the pointy end in that person? INGENIOUS."
I still stand by throwing glaives.
Breaker
07-20-08, 05:26 PM
Aka...
"So I pick up THIS object by the non-pointy end and put the pointy end in that person? INGENIOUS."
I still stand by throwing glaives.
I'm pretty sure that's exactly what you do with a throwing glaive. But it doesn't really matter whether it's a glaive forged in the fires of hell with a +9 against ogres, or a sharp twig that's laying on the ground nearby. If the pointy end of either goes into your enemy's throat, you win.
I don't know if I'd call that "ingenious", but it certainly seems effective.
AdventWings
07-20-08, 09:17 PM
I concur.
Anything that's not normally called a weapon = underrated.
*Carries a balltip pen with him everywhere - Just in case*
Well, as for Althanas, what we haven't seen ever are Bombs. Yep. Hand grenades, fuse-lit explosives, or even a barrel of Aleran Gun Powder. Max mentioned something similar once during an Illicit Entrepreneur raid of the Bazaar, but he mistook the keg of Aleran Iron Powder for gunpowder. :p
Then again, explosives are regulated far stricter than your garden variety fireballs. Boom!
I say I just beat you all with a wooden spoon and call it the most underrated weapon.
Nightstalker
07-20-08, 09:26 PM
No, the most original of all weapons? A feather. how many feather welders have you ever seen? Before?
I haven't seen any. Thus, it must be the most original weapon.
I concur.
Anything that's not normally called a weapon = underrated.
*Carries a balltip pen with him everywhere - Just in case*
Well, as for Althanas, what we haven't seen ever are Bombs. Yep. Hand grenades, fuse-lit explosives, or even a barrel of Aleran Gun Powder. Max mentioned something similar once during an Illicit Entrepreneur raid of the Bazaar, but he mistook the keg of Aleran Iron Powder for gunpowder. :p
Then again, explosives are regulated far stricter than your garden variety fireballs. Boom!
Rayse uses Molotov cocktails. Explodey.
No, the most original of all weapons? A feather. how many feather welders have you ever seen? Before?
I haven't seen any. Thus, it must be the most original weapon.
It's true. Just because a weapon is original doesn't mean it's useful.
http://thefuntimesguide.com/images/blogs/Unique_by_krash.jpg
Actually, the most original weapon is nothing more than a balled fist, or an open hand. It also happens to be the oldest and simplest of all weapons. After all, we use it for all the other weapons.
Pwnt.
You're incorrect. The human mind uses nerves to control those fists to ball up, and we use it for all other weapons. We use it in strategy and we use it in technique. It is omnipresent in battle, and never used alone, thus making it the most original and useful.
Pwnt + I can use italics too.
You're incorrect. The human mind uses nerves to control those fists to ball up, and we use it for all other weapons. We use it in strategy and we use it in technique. It is omnipresent in battle, and never used alone, thus making it the most original and useful.
Pwnt + I can use italics too.
It also happens to be our greatest weakness.............
Alright. I'll remove your "weakness" for you. Once your heart and lungs cease to function, death will be quick. But don't worry. Without nerves, it's completely painless.
Not like you could worry, what with me removing your brain and all, you'd cease to think.
Gravity blades (again). I bought them for my character, but they were meant more for a last desperate shot to level up than actual use and weren't the intended character for them either.
Still. Greasers had them, Bikers had them, and all the cool kids have them. Take a butterfly knife and learn how to do the 'dance' with them. Kind've unnerving, but theres a reason why they're illegal.
Now we have artificial hearts and lungs, so that weakness no longer applies. =D I have yet to see an artificial brain though.
AdventWings
07-20-08, 10:01 PM
Pwnt.
>.>
<.<
Well, I still think the pen is the mightest of them all.
You can carry it - concealed or exposed - even when you're in another country's consulate.
>.>
<.<
*Sneakz away*
Nightstalker
07-20-08, 10:05 PM
Bah, you just have to think creativly to use a feather.
As for the fists and the mind, the mind is rather important for anything else. So, I suppose it would have to be the most underrated weapon.
Blaming your mind for being damaged is like blaming your spleen for being cut out. If you are not trained in use of your mind, of course it's a weakness. Just like fighting a great sword master is a weakness when you can't use a sword.
So you agree than that it is our greatest weakness?
Sweet.
Rebellion
07-20-08, 10:10 PM
Music.
I want to see a bard character, or something, that uses sound and music itself as weapons. If there has been someone or something done similar that, I would like someone to link me.
So yeah. "Music as a Weapon." Kind of catchy. I'd use it had Disturbed not already claimed it first.
So you agree than that it is our greatest weakness?
Sweet.
I didn't say greatest. I said it's a weakness. Although I guess your mind is your greatest weakness. That's not an everyone thing, it's a you thing.
Get a stronger mind. And, if you can, trade in the face.
Nightstalker
07-20-08, 10:13 PM
On another forum, I had a bard who used Sonic energy as a weapon. It's pretty fun to use ANY sound as a deadly and lethal weapon.
And unfortunatly, I do mean any sound...
Breaker
07-20-08, 10:14 PM
I concur.
Anything that's not normally called a weapon = underrated.
*Carries a balltip pen with him everywhere - Just in case*
Well, as for Althanas, what we haven't seen ever are Bombs. Yep. Hand grenades, fuse-lit explosives, or even a barrel of Aleran Gun Powder. Max mentioned something similar once during an Illicit Entrepreneur raid of the Bazaar, but he mistook the keg of Aleran Iron Powder for gunpowder. :p
Then again, explosives are regulated far stricter than your garden variety fireballs. Boom!
Energy Surplus: Josh’s body functions at such an overwhelming rate that it actually creates more energy than he needs. He can channel this extra energy into any inanimate object, the result of which being that as soon as the object suffers an impact of reasonable proportion, it explodes with the concussive force of a hand grenade.
Boom chicka boom.
EDIT: There are a few characters on the boards that use sonic attacks.
I didn't say greatest. I said it's a weakness. Although I guess your mind is your greatest weakness. That's not an everyone thing, it's a you thing.
Get a stronger mind. And, if you can, trade in the face.
Ooooh, someone is taking this personally. =P Fair enough, you win. *bows* I concede defeat.
LET IT BE KNOWN THAT FROM THIS DAY FORTH, ARSENE HAS ACHIEVED VICTORY IN THIS TINY AND RATHER INSIGNIFICANT FIGHT.
I thank you for your attention in this matter. =)
I still cast my vote for the fist.
Ooooh, someone is taking this personally. =P Fair enough, you win. *bows* I concede defeat.
LET IT BE KNOWN THAT FROM THIS DAY FORTH, ARSENE HAS ACHIEVED VICTORY IN THIS TINY AND RATHER INSIGNIFICANT FIGHT.
I thank you for your attention in this matter. =)
I still cast my vote for the fist.
Thank you. It's all I ever wanted.
Rebellion
07-20-08, 10:49 PM
Oy. -.-
Any hows, I wasn't talking about sonic boom attacks, even though I know they are a part of sound weaponry. I was talking about music itself as a weapon. For example, a guitar with enchanted strings that casts different magic depending on the intensity of the song. Like, Led's "Stairway to Heaven" might bring about a soft wind that slowly lulls the opponent to sleep, whereas Disturbed's "Meaning of Life" could bring about a huge gust of kinetic force or summon fire or send someone into a berserker rage or something. Intensity is key.
Terminus Mortis
07-20-08, 11:59 PM
Oh, you'll se a lot more fist fights now that I'm here. Probably my character's only feasible strength (currently) is his hand-to-hand training.
How many stilettos do we have? Or Sykes-Fairbairn daggers?
The Forgotten
07-21-08, 12:24 AM
I use stilettos, as well as any random blade smaller than a short sword. They're perfect when fighting your average chain-mail bearer. The dagger just slides right through the rings and pries them apart on its way through.
What about boot-blades? I don't see many people making use of those. Or at least many people making consistent use of them.
No, the most original of all weapons? A feather. how many feather welders have you ever seen? Before?
I haven't seen any. Thus, it must be the most original weapon.
I have a feather-wielder on another board. A sentient feather.
Winterhair
07-21-08, 12:59 AM
To keep things organized, I have made a list of all the weapons, ridiculous or not, that have been mentioned.
-Sling
-Axes
-Bolas
-Fork/silverware
-Staves
-Nunchaku
-Jitte
-Shields
-Warhammer
-Tonfas (1 Under)
-Blowgun
-Chakrams
-Gravity Blades
-Polearms in general (glaives, tridents, halberds, spears all included.)
-Blunt weaponry in general
-Armor
-Morningstar
-Garrote Wire (1 Under)
-"Banhammer"
-Flails/Chains
-Whip swords
-Cwellan (see explanation in Ataraxis post.)
-Atlatl
-Horseshoes and Hand Grenades
-Caltrops
-Kusarigama
-Windmill Scythe/Throwing Glaive
-Lotta guns and missles (Courtesy of T. Mortis.)
-Poison
-Katar
-Small Sword
-Simple steel longsword (1 Under)
-The Prehensile Penis (brought to you by Wal-Mart.)
-The Cheese Wheel
-Boomerang swords
-Wet bath towel whips
-Hookshot swords
-"Anything At Hand" (1 Original)
-Naginata
-Children (more deadly than you know.)
-Bombs
-Wooden Spoon (not part of silverware) (1 Under)
-THE FEATHER (2 Original)
-Molotov Cocktails
-The Pen
-The Balled Fist (1 Original)
-The Mind (1 Under)
-"Music As A Weapon"
-Stiletto
-Boot Blade
-THE CHICKEN (1 Original)
And thats it for the moment.
I now ask you all to make a final judging on which is the most original and which is the most underrated, please.
Format:
O: ___________
U: ___________
I'll keep track of who likes what so we'll all see in the very end which is the winner. I'll cast my vote at the very end and make it the final vote.
Ataraxis
07-21-08, 02:31 AM
The cwellan is the weapon Achmed uses in the Rhapsody Trilogy by Elizabeth Haydon (though I think there are five or six books now). It's similar to a crossbow, only it shoots metallic discs at an insane range. It is a purely fictional weapon, but it's pretty awesome.
Also, meteor hammers and rope darts. Already have the latter, and I'm on my way to getting the former.
Godhand
07-21-08, 02:35 AM
I'll keep track of who likes what so we'll all see in the very end which is the winner. I'll cast my vote at the very end and make it the final vote.
Oh lawd, is dat sum unwarranted self importance!?
Raimeiken
07-21-08, 02:37 AM
Well, I'll start this little happy train. ^^
O: The feather!
U: Tonfas
Winterhair
07-21-08, 02:41 AM
Oh lawd, is dat sum unwarranted self importance!?
Yes it is.
Now shuddup and vote.
O: The Balled Fist
U: The Mind
The Forgotten
07-21-08, 01:35 PM
O: Feather
U: Plain Steel Sword (Raven's suggestion)
Terminus Mortis
07-21-08, 01:48 PM
O: Anything at hand (Krav Maga is awesome)
U: Garrote Wire
LordLeopold
07-22-08, 11:40 PM
In the 1973 movie "Emperor of the North," (or Emperor of the North Pole, as it was sometimes marketed) the hobo played by Lee Marvin uses a chicken to beat up thieves who try to steal his stuff. And afterwards the chicken is unharmed!
Winterhair
07-23-08, 12:07 AM
In the 1973 movie "Emperor of the North," (or Emperor of the North Pole, as it was sometimes marketed) the hobo played by Lee Marvin uses a chicken to beat up thieves who try to steal his stuff. And afterwards the chicken is unharmed!
So awesome I'm adding it.
The Bloody Son
07-23-08, 01:18 PM
Sword Whip? How would that work?
Easy. I have one!
Answer
Movie: Brotherhood of the Wolf
Nuff' said. Whip Sword.
I think Bladed Tonfas would rox0r.
The Forgotten
07-23-08, 01:29 PM
I think Bladed Tonfas would rox0r.
You mean like Talim in Soul Calibur series?
Breaker
07-23-08, 01:41 PM
Answer
Movie: Brotherhood of the Wolf
Nuff' said. Whip Sword.
I think Bladed Tonfas would rox0r.
That would compromise a lot of the tonfa techniques, but I remember Steppenwolf Orlouge had a set of diamond tipped tonfa.
Winterhair
07-23-08, 02:46 PM
I'll add in the Blade Tonfas, but I have to agree: it would indeed compromise the essential purpose of the tonfa.
Well, The clockwork guy from Hellboy had them. Though he didn't really seem to use those blade at all like how tonfas are used, so I would assume it would be something completely different.
Speaking of which, shuriken are awesome and oddly underused. though with good reason. Caltraps as well.
AdventWings
07-23-08, 09:21 PM
Shuriken: Used as distractions while escaping pursuers or going in for the kill.
Caltrops: Deter pursuers on foot. They also work on car tires!
Bladed tonfas are cool, but they sorta defeat the purpose of itself as a primarily "defensive" weapon. Plus, there are more techniques that require the user to grab the long arm and use that as blade catches. Can't do that with bladed tonfas. ;)
Winterhair
07-23-08, 09:38 PM
Indeed. I'd like to see someone try through with a bladed tonfa. xD "Oops."
Votes needed, peoples.
Moonlit Raven
07-26-08, 10:55 PM
What about swiss army knives? Sure it's a dinky little blade but it's still a blade and it's easy to hide in your hand. Best of all it's usefull off the battle field too!
Fists are good but nature has always been red in tooth and claw. Basics people.
O: Chicken
U: Wooden Spoon - Mother and grandmothers have been using them to beat their children for hundreds of years.
Dmitri personally uses a massive hammer. I don't think we see enough non-cutting weapons here. Why slash someone when you can cave their armor in?
Caden Law
08-02-08, 02:30 PM
Dmitri personally uses a massive hammer. I don't think we see enough non-cutting weapons here. Why slash someone when you can cave their armor in?
Not to mention that most people are more likely to take a hit from a blunt weapon than a little knick from a sharp one :D
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