Luthmor, New character

[Fotiadis110]

I'm considering making a thread in this chapter (partly because my character is based there) however the subject material in question is a complication because it will be 'breaking' the canon, although the specific outcome of the result will not be determined within the thread itself.


'Mall Anbhas.'
'There is no cure for it.'
'Many have fruitlessly searched for some kind of cure and found nothing, nor are they any closer to understanding where it comes from.'


However my thread plan IS to introduce additional specific back story for my character in that he HAS forged a cure, and used it in the past on an individual, but with a problem, namely the second twin was effected by the same, and it was realised to late for the long time of the treatment to be completed, resulting ultimately in the 'healed' fae's life being forfeit.

Silas (presently) is of the mindset of hiding and protecting himself, there are very few reasons he would change his mind, but a character interaction thread built around this idea, even though it could (assuming the treatment in question is a success which it may not need be) TECHNICALLY effect the canon.

The only reason I'm considering it is because of Silas's immeasurable experience and it's a good enough way to introduce Silas's methods.

#1 i'd ask the various forum mods/admins/gods if i can continue with this idea, second i'd ask is there a Fae floating who would be willing to do this interaction with me or will i have to make someone up?

[Taskmienster]

What sickness is it that you are trying to cure? I may have missed something regarding Dheathain and a sickness...

[Fotiadis110]

look in the fae section regarding the twins:

mind you i'll just quote it in full:

'
Twin Lore:

Twins are an extremely celebrated occurrence in Fae Lore, for many different reasons. Some Fae theorize that twins are of a higher spiritual standing and were brought into the world to teach those around them lessons. Others believe it is the soul within the twin Fae themselves that is there to learn a specific lesson, and usually more than one. One thing that does remain constant is that all Fae believe when twins are born, it is in fact one soul that has separated into two bodies and twins are born more often to the Fae than any other race on Althanas. Though identical in looks their personalities are usually quite the opposite. You will not necessarily get something along the lines of ‘good’ and ‘evil’ but more in subtle ways. One twin may be extremely energetic and carefree, the other more reserved, quiet and cautious.

But there is also a downside to twins. Rare are the cases of it, but some twins have been born with a terrible disease. It is something they have from birth that can affect them at any point in their lives. Be it only days after they are born or hundreds of years later. They call it the Mall Anbhas. It’s a disease that slowly attacks one of the Fae from within, eating away at internal organs and causing an extremely slow and painful death.

It can start off as nothing more than a headache or a cold that never truly goes away and always seems to get worse. There is no cure for it. And the true sign that a Fae does have the Mall Anbhas is that their blood turns from silver to black.

Shortly after the diseased Fae dies, the other twin soon follows. Even though most Fae believe that when one twin dies the soul becomes whole, the deep connection that twin Fae feel and the deep loss without it eventually destroys them. Many have fruitlessly searched for some kind of cure and found nothing, nor are they any closer to understanding where it comes from. Most believe it is something left over from when the soul unnaturally splits itself in half; others believe it is some kind of genetic mutation.'


The idea is that Silas (being the oldest and wisest known herb master on the planet) made a treatment for the illness but a lengthly one, and it worked, but the problem was the illness in turn effected the OTHER twin and was realised too late, leaving no hope of the treatment succeeding. resulting ultimately in the treated twin dying from loss of the second.

that being the only time Silas ever created the treatment and used it in the past.

The story would basically go Silas remaking the treatment, and preparing it for BOTH twins in the hopes that would destroy it in full, remembering the past experience and giving some of the old forgotten treatments a recommendation (basically a list of treatments that ISN'T recorded on the forum, because they aren't used today, think of it like aloe vera, once it was recommended for everything with science saying 'no way that could work' before eventually finding it did! Old lore is powerful stuff.)

Basically I want to be sure that the treatment is acceptable before making a thread and getting penalised for trying to treat an 'incurable' illness.

[Taskmienster]

Well, the first thing that would detract from the thread would be that according to canon it's "incurable"... so finding a cure would be extremely difficult and probably have to span multiple and very well written threads. The second thing is that, as a level 0 character, you don't have listed that you have any medical skills or herbalist skills listed in your profile.

The final thing is that as a level 0 character you can't be "the oldest and wisest known [anything] on the plant" without having lost basically all of it to make the character fit a level 0 profile.

So, if you tried to do it, you'd probably get your score docked significantly...

[Fotiadis110]

You'd need to read my history to understand why i make the statements i am, they aren't talents i expect to come up regually, given the lack of use of '300 cures for the common cold' in any combat setting...

It's characterful just not in the top half of the talents.


My characters lifetime extends most of known history of the world, knowing a few things more than modern folk about old remedies is hardly unexpected for a character who spent most of his life looking for them.

In particular the treatment requires reagents that have been forgotten and come from lands far beyond the forests.

As it stands though i'd like to show what i've got 'written up' to those in charge of that world and see what they think <_<

[Taskmienster]

I've read most of it, and it's not that. What's in your history may be your background, but on Althanas what you have as your skills is what you can do. You don't have it listed that you are an 'expert' herbalist, so therefore you aren't. If you had added that as a skill/ability it would have been knocked back to something that works for a level 0 character.

I know you've used this character on other sites, as you said in the beginning of your approval thread, but the way Althanas works is that unless it was approved for use it can't be used. The character may have been a master herbalist in the past, but that's the past and your level 0 profile is the present. In order for you to have those skills you'd have to get them approved in future levels, and the ability to cure and 'incurable disease' would probably not get approved until you were a pretty high level.

[Fotiadis110]

K sounds like I'll have to spend all combat spell abilities for the next 5 levels on a single ability for herbalism, and I'll still be as weak as a sore chicken till level.... 10?

It was simply a good idea of why he finally left solitude to participate with the rest of the world, perhaps I'll throw something in a later level and be able to do the thread idea...

Unless of course I create my own illness that needs treating <_<, one not effected by canon.

I didn't think to add the herbalism because it isn't something that would be used in any combat setting, and hence i figured it was unimportant (90% of abilities of example characters people linked me to were combat/combat/more combat) but apparently neglecting that hidden power is a bad thing :/

Just have to add something strong in that field later I suppose.

[Taskmienster]

Unfortunately a lot of people are focused more on combat, but I know of a few profiles that are more socially oriented and don't necessarily go into combat... it's not necessary to know how to fight on Althanas, it is just the will of a lot of people to stick to someone that can fight.

Powers outside of combat still should be listed though, since even if you can't use them in battle you still need to use them in quests... and unlisted abilities are taken into account in quests as well.

So, you can wait till much later levels to have the ability to cure the illness, or do a quest every once in a while (even one per level) trying to figure out the cure... it's up to you. However, at your current level, and quite a few levels to come, I don't see the herbalism and healing ability that you want to use getting approved. It just depends though on what else you add and how you work it.

You are, however, allowed to make up an illness, though you should probably keep it something simple since anything overly extravagant and difficult would still be very hard for a level 0 character to heal. Normally we allow people to start with that kind of skill with relative ability equal to "creating rudimentary concoctions that can help close wounds, purge weaker diseases, and increase healing rate very slightly"... so you might want to go off that and put that skill in when you level and make a note that you forgot to have it listed as a skill for level 0.

Hope that helped.

[Witchblade]

Aside from the bantering of character approvals and skills--although I could get into this arguement as an RoG mod, I shall not--I will however comment on the initial question considering I am the writer and creator of Dheathain.

To give a simple yes and no answer as to you curing an 'incurable' disease, it would be yes. But that would be simple and 'incurable' diseases are not easy. One fact does remain, when one twin becomes infected with this disease, it only effects that twin, there is no way for it to be transfered to the other one. The infected twin dies and the other lives out his or her life in solitude, or quickly dies of loneliness. I myself had plans for this disease, considering I have a Fae character who is in fact a twin, but it was going to span quite a few threads and would be no easy feat of accomplishment. To cure an 'incurable' disease in one thread certainly makes little sense, especially considering the nature of this one. Now, I am not saying you can't do it. By all means, feel free to try this out in your thread, however, it may not become canon to the region after the thread is completed, or it may if I think you've done a rather admirable job on it. But, that would be quite some accomplishment, richly rewarded by the Fae council.

[Fotiadis110]

Previous discussion over, the recipe to resolve the condition literally took about 70 ingredients (coming out of a large secreted store of Silas' from his past), and was supposed to take a long time (about 12 posts ALONE to create with interaction throughout, the 'initial start' and departure aspects of the thread would make that longer still) Ultimately it's not suitable given my current level and profile, but that doesn't mean I can't do it later on.

Instead of that: a new proposal, Silas can be easily acknowledged as being knowledgeable about his surroundings, having lived in the forest so long, may I start a thread where I introduce a otherwise 'unknown' species? the idea being some archaeologists taking a wrong turn on the way home and meeting Silas right before walking into a mass of cobwebs from a species of co-operative spiders (think similar army ants, with nigh invisible webs between trees).

I haven't started putting it words paper yet, but I'm looking at acting as guide for the group till we get to town, where Silas will have a 'what am i doing back here' moment, and probably return to the forest to mull his options

He'd actually go out and start re-exploring the world in a later thread
this is just to change his thinking from isolation to contributing again.

Is there anyone interested in participating in this idea, or shall I come up with something new