View Full Version : Bye, you got punked by the way
Since I'm leaving, might as well tell the truth:
YOU ALL GOT PUNKED!! But I ONLY did so because I felt this site wasn't going anywhere, and I was right. Otherwise I wouldn't do that kind of thing. Anywayz... here is my proof:
http://www.giveupalready.com/showthread.php?46707-Naan-An-Angel-s-Tears-%28solo%29&highlight=
vs
http://www.althanas.com/world/showthread.php?22316-Tears-of-Woe-%28short-solo-quest%29&highlight=
....
http://www.giveupalready.com/showthread.php?69647-Linmotar-Solo-Whispearheads-Mountain&highlight=Whispearheads+Mountain
vs
http://www.althanas.com/world/showthread.php?19877-Whispearheads-Mountain-Solo-Quest
...
One last thing ... I cheated in The Tournament Of Champions and won first place while doing it. LAWL!!
I stole material from multiple threads here, you win a cookie if you can find the material I stole:
http://www.giveupalready.com/forumdisplay.php?255-Tournament-of-Legends
... and put them together, then replaced my characters name ... along with changing words here and there like turning "he" into "she" ... and heavy editing by taking out spells and etc.
HAHAHAHA!
This site isn't going anywhere anyway, might as well tell the truth and say my goodbyes. Don't ban me though, I want to know what people say to this thread. Don't worry, I won't come back anyway.
Well, I sure was fooled. I mean, who knew you were a lazy and childish asshat?
Poll needs a "who cares?" option.
There is ... kinda:
Nope, I knew you cheated but I didn't say anything nor care
Rayse Valentino
03-03-11, 12:06 PM
Wow, this actually provides us a lot of insight into the judging system since now we have a valid comparison to another site. I also think we can learn a bit from their rubric (and they can learn a lot from ours).
Comparing the second two threads, Knave gave it 20/100 while the other thread received 32/70. This is a boom to this site, since it's more discerning about complete horseshit. I can say that their rubric fails because Reader Interest is way too subjective, the "quest effort" category is too strange, and they're just too lenient on the rest. 5/6 out of 10 for total crap is way too much.
Comparing the first two threads, we see something very different. Sei gives it 40/100, while the other site doles out 26/70. These are low scores for both sites, but why Sei gave it so much is a little interesting. One reason is that Sei is a bit more generous or has a bias towards certain types of threads that tickle his fancy. The alternative is a failing in our own rubric, namely the Clarity and Mechanics categories. If you take them out, the score would've been 24/80, which is much more in line with this site's discerning attitude compared to the more lenient GiveUpAlready. I believe this is a failing on the part of our rubric. Too many points are determined by what is essentially a basic comprehension of English. It makes it so every thread made on Althanas by someone older than 16 will automatically get above a 40 or so, inflating most of the scores on the site. It confuses an 'interesting' thread with a 'coherent' one. It also maybe punishes threads that are deliberately incoherent in narrative, but still have a message/theme/point.
Thanks Petoux, rather than 'punking' you've actually contributed to a case study in comparative judging! Not that the admins or whatever would ever acknowledge any faults in their "perfect" system or anything, but at least I can refer to this and say 'I told you so'.
Yari Rafanas
03-03-11, 12:15 PM
I just feel bad for the people he stole from.
http://images2.memegenerator.net/ImageMacro/6035635/PETOUX-FOrever-alone.jpg?imageSize=Medium&generatorName=Forever-Alone
Jack Frost
03-03-11, 01:00 PM
Lol, you didn't even steal good writing...
btw, you realize that the creation of the original thread gave it a "copyright" to the owner even though it wasn't filed. Your plagiarism is copyright infringement, and you could be taken to court if the creator found out.
Visla Eraclaire
03-03-11, 01:11 PM
Don't talk about copyrights on the internet unless you're a corporate attorney issuing a cease and desist order.
I agree with Rayse, this is useful data. More useful than anything most people who try to contribute to the site can muster.
Jack Frost
03-03-11, 01:23 PM
Don't talk about copyrights on the internet unless you're a corporate attorney issuing a cease and desist order.
I agree with Rayse, this is useful data. More useful than anything most people who try to contribute to the site can muster.
it's been a while since you last trolled here...
But I agree, he has brought us a site to compare against, and possibly recruit from...
orphans
03-03-11, 01:54 PM
disappointed :\
Ganlon Martel
03-03-11, 02:12 PM
Looks like you did what most High School and College students do to pass all of their classes. Be proud of being MEDIOCRE!
I actually don't really feel bad from the people you ripped from at all, Petoux. If we had finished that thread, emphasis on finished, I would have torn you apart in the score and knocked you out on your ass. Aside from that, any sort of writing or substance you had during that round was completely dismal from your first post to the last. However, I enjoyed providing the setting for you to frollick in your space bubble.
But, I suppose that's opening a can of couldawouldashoulda, and its way past its expiration date. However, I just wanted to mention if you were truly this bad from what I've seen of you and you needed to steal from people in order to make your writing somewhat inteligible speaks volumes about your own personal ability.
Good job. I didn't think it was possible to think any less of you, but you proved me fucking wrong.
Visla Eraclaire
03-03-11, 03:01 PM
This seems like a post-hoc justification too, since he did all that shit trying to get involved. This wasn't a master plan.
He cheated, he diddled around with some genuine interaction, then he got mad and tried to pretend it was all trolling. A common internet cycle. You can't fire him, he quits.
Now he's "totally leaving forever" and he doesn't care so much that he has to tell everyone about it. Ho, fucking hum. Nobody on Althanas is a pure troll. The people who get called trolls (me, Rayse, Godhand, Saxon, et al.) have all posted with genuine interest in the board for some if not most of their time.
Also, did somebody pay you out of pocket for winning that tournament yet or not? 'Cause I know you sure as hell didn't get the book.
Lady Anais
03-03-11, 04:15 PM
Wait, let me get this right, because maybe I missed something...
You came to a writing community. One where you get to make up a character, make up stories. Pretty much the entire purpose is that you get enjoyment out of writing. That you enjoy making stories.
And you didn't do any of that. There's no tangible rewards. All the "rewards" provided here are just the ability to add on to your future writing. To develop the character more.
And you stole it from somewhere else.
Ummm.... we got punked?
You may want to look at it again.
It's like going to a site for solitaire enthusiasts and scripting a bot to play for you. Okay, you won. Congrats. Meanwhile everyone else gets to enjoy actually playing the game and you get... well, nothing. But to say "Yay I won" about something you apparently weren't into in the first place.
Congrats?
You have way too much time on your hands, Petoux. :P It's pathetic and extremely amusing at the same time.
Enigmatic Immortal
03-03-11, 04:57 PM
http://madtown.cc/d/27616-1/Slow-Clap.gif
And that's about all you deserve. My suggestion to the rest of the site is to stop giving baby what he wants. Ignore this thread, please, and let him fade into the sunset on his high horse picking his nose while another finger gracefully is located in another position I will leave to your imaginations.
http://madtown.cc/d/27616-1/Slow-Clap.gif
And that's about all you deserve. My suggestion to the rest of the site is to stop giving baby what he wants. Ignore this thread, please, and let him fade into the sunset on his high horse picking his nose while another finger gracefully is located in another position I will leave to your imaginations.
I calls em as I sees em, and I'm not shy about it either.
Also, did somebody pay you out of pocket for winning that tournament yet or not? 'Cause I know you sure as hell didn't get the book.
No book, no money, no nothing ... Mikeavalli (my tournament partner) got legitimately jipped.
Like I said, I'm a nice guy .. I have great material of my own, I don't do this kind of stuff ... only reason I did is because I felt the site wasn't going anywhere, so I decided to toy with it PRAYING it would get better ... but it didn't, so I gave up and now I'm quitting.
Jasmine
03-03-11, 08:36 PM
it took you 4 years to figure such a thing out? wow... you must have a pretty danged thick skull... either that or you were ridiculously optimisitc...
either way if you're leaving, why do you continue to stick around and post in this? Just leave all ready...
Elrundir
03-03-11, 10:35 PM
Petoux, the only person who you punked here is you. :\ Whatever you were trying to accomplish with this thread or your plagiarism, it fell pretty flat on its face.
I have great material of my own, I don't do this kind of stuff.
You've been here for a while Petoux, and I haven't known you well or long enough to make any great personal statement on you. You seemed like you were getting into part of the site, so I figured you weren't all bad. Seems I was wrong, but as you leave and laugh, consider something.
You have produced nothing to justify the above quote, all reports claim your work to be sloppy and without effort, the lone accomplishment you have here was stolen. I'm not sure you've ever demonstrated anything special.
Mundane, trying to leave like a winner, you are saying it doesn't matter, but when things don't matter, you don't bother saying goodbye. I think you've realized your potential. As far as trolling? You helped with a minor concept people seem to like, you've done no damage to the site, I think you managed to be more helpful than anything else.
The only person's time you've wasted is mine.
Goodbye, Petoux.
You have produced nothing to justify the above quote, all reports claim your work to be sloppy and without effort, the lone accomplishment you have here was stolen. I'm not sure you've ever demonstrated anything special.
My best work, yes it's my own I swear:
http://www.althanas.com/world/showthread.php?22251-Boss-Submissions&p=179275&viewfull=1#post179275
That took me awhile to produce. Other than that, nothing special. Maybe Sara SixBlades my Althanas character?
For the record, I'm soooo tempted to take the bait. I know this is probably the only real chance I'll ever have on Althanas to flame the fuck out of somebody with no real reprimand, and part of me thinks that would be all kinds of fun. But I won't.
Anyway - and I sincerely mean this - good luck finding some maturity and a life, because you appear to have neither.
Oh, and Rayse: Thank you. You won this thread.
My best work, yes it's my own I swear:
http://www.althanas.com/world/showthread.php?22251-Boss-Submissions&p=179275&viewfull=1#post179275
That took me awhile to produce. Other than that, nothing special. Maybe Sara SixBlades my Althanas character?
Apparently, your best work was something you wrote four years ago. And you copied it off yourself from another site. You aware that can still be considered as plagiarism, if you're trying to dupe it off as original content? And I've seen your threads. Even your profile. I can say that it's nothing special, and it helps me understand why you'd rather steal from other people.
I would suggest the judges to copyscape a thread to check for plagiarism, but I doubt another loser like this will appear on Althanas. ;)
Hysteria
03-04-11, 07:13 AM
@Rayse and Visla
Quite a lot of RPers used to be on both here and GUA (Giveupalready; Storm Veritas for one). That rubric took into account althanas's, but a distinction was drawn between both sites, with althanas being more focused on Story Writing.
As for comparing rubrics, that one was more about description of the 'event' rather than 'story'. So here you get a better score by integrating a thread into your characters story, there it doesn't matter so much. To break it down:
Realism: Did you powergame, stick to your skills, have NPCs act accordingly, find loot realistically, obey your character traits/personality (as defined in your character sheet)? Realism also determined if you got any items you requested.
Character development: Explanation of the characters thoughts and feelings throughout the thread, both directly (bob got angry) and indirectly (bob smashed his fists into the table).
Environment interaction: Interaction with the environment, included description of the environment and all five (six?) senses. So you might get extra points both by having your character interact with the environment more (like bumping into a table during a bar fight) and by describing the environment (the bar smelt like piss and stale beer).
Reader comprehension: Included readability, like grammar and spelling mistakes, but also continued into the positive writing, so nice expression, pacing, etc was a bonus.
Reader interest: Kinda like the wildcard here.
Grand scale: A bonus based on the size of the thread, and I think the interaction with the greater world also contributed. So being involved in a giant battle as opposed to a bar fight.
I would have thought a thread like that on GUA to score more than one here, if only because of the very different focus of both systems.
Of course if you were just attempting to move the conversation away from Petoux, I will take my leave :P
@Petoux: Disappointed
Max Dirks
03-04-11, 08:21 AM
Don't ban me though, I want to know what people say to this thread.Ordinarily we'd catch plagiarism in the Realm of Greeting and give the player a second chance. However, in Petoux' case a permanent ban is appropriate given his blatant disregard for our rules and its possible implications.
Rayse, I find your comparative analysis insightful. I encourage you to create a new thread to discuss it or move the discussion to your former rubric thread.
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