The realistic end of the world

[TheOnlyGhost]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfFqdBMmoDk

Estimated to possibly happen between December 2012 and March/April (Spring) 2013.

Chances of hitting is low, but still.

Comments anyone on this?

[BlackAndBlueEyes]

I don't have 44 minutes to spare to watch and fully comment on this, but I respectfully disagree with something a bit more... final. (http://youtu.be/iauIP8swfBY)

[Arden]

The earth will in end in about 10,000 years when the sun goes BADASS and blows up the solar system.

We'll all be long dead by then.

[Nasr Moghadam]

I'd worry less about the sun, some natural disaster, a space disaster related to an asteroid, or anything like that and worry about the world eating itself to death. Our food source, diet, nutrition, and general way we go about treating one of the must important aspects of human survival is appalling and going to be the death of us all eventually..

[SirArtemis]

I'd worry less about the sun, some natural disaster, a space disaster related to an asteroid, or anything like that and worry about the world eating itself to death. Our food source, diet, nutrition, and general way we go about treating one of the must important aspects of human survival is appalling and going to be the death of us all eventually..

What he's trying to say is, people will kill themselves off before anything out of our control gets the chance.

[Arden]

Yes, Artie.

That, and I'm talking about the literal end of the world. The end of humanity is not the end of the world.

When the Earth is gone completely, that's the end!

[Dana]

The earth will in end in about 10,000 years when the sun goes BADASS and blows up the solar system.

We'll all be long dead by then.

10,000 years? Try around 4.57 billion. Our solar system is here to stay. Is it too hard for many people to just sit back and enjoy the fact you're not dead yet? Or do you have to be over 30 to be able to appreciate that?

[Tainted Bushido]

I call it the curiosity of youth. It leads people to all sorts of stupid things, like believing the president is the herald of the antichrist or that Regean was the antichrist.

[TheOnlyGhost]

The realistic version video in a nutshell, in order (at least I will try)

Note: 1 - 3 is explained in the video within the first 5 minutes or less ... more detail in 10 minutes.

1.: A C.M.E. (Coronal Mass Ejection) {aka: Solar Flare} from the sun with the power of 10,000 most powerful nuclear weapons the size of 1/3 of the sun will possibly strike the Earth anywhere from December of 2012 to May or June of 2013.

2.: All electricity will be fried and go out globally and won't return for an estimated 10 - 20 years.

3.: There will be a massive food and water and gas shortage since a.: Water is pumped by electricity and b.: most of the foods we have and can buy will spoil w/o refrigeration, and in order to refrigerate something, it needs electricity. c.: fuel is pumped by electricity (for the most part). No communication of any kind, because all phones/radios/satellites will be fried.

4.: They estimate anywhere from 1/3 to 1/2 (1/3 is their best guess) of the world's population will be killed by this event by the time we get electricity back. Not to mention, in order to fix all the damage, it will cost trillions and trillions of dollars, and MANY work hours.

5.: Chances of this hitting is roughly 65% up to 85%. It has happened in the past, btw, in the 1800's, but all we had at that time was the telegraph so it didn't effect us at all.

6.: We will have as little as 3 hours to a max of 24 hours warning for this event if it were to occur, unfortunately.

Here is a HUGE Hollywood overexageration (by a lot) of what a C.M.E. / Solar Flare will do:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5j8nuUVByrU

Just take out the massive fire and building damages and you get your solar flare effect (Northern Lights globably --- that's it, for a little bit) {The wavy light patterns in the sky --- ignore the fire and damage, doesn't happen.). For if it did, we would be dead in the 1800's (since we had a storm in that century) ;)

{0.50 to 1:01 in the video example is probably the most accurate (without the Earth Debree)}

The movie is "Knowing" btw.

[Letho]

I'm not really holding my breath on this one. One one side, there's people with doomsday theories. But all the proof they have suggests that it might happen, the same way it might happen every cycle. From what I heard, while it might be a strong one, this one won't be significantly different than the previous. Some satellites might fizzle out, you might get some static on your cell phone, but global blackouts and whatnot? Yeah, I'm not packing canned food and bottled water in the basement just yet.

[TheOnlyGhost]

Yeah, I also highly doubt it would be globally ... BUT, it is still a possibility (it happened in the 1800's after-all).

[Duffy]

We could totally form a tribe called Althanas and run around killing looter gangs in medieval clothing with stolen weapons if the world did end.

[Max Dirks]

As long as our little ball keeps spinning, I'm sure the earth's magnetic field will protect us from any type of life ending CME our sun throws at us for the next 4 billion years. While a large CME might wipe out some infrastructure most vital power systems are all RF shielded. This was originally done in response to the threat of a nuclear EMP. Plus if you want to project your small electronics, you could just throw them in your microwave. That is a Faraday cage too.

The real threat is gamma radiation from a nearby supernova. Contact with that could scrub our magnetic field and evaporate our atmosphere. Bad stuff indeed!

[Silence Sei]

I'm not really holding my breath on this one. One one side, there's people with doomsday theories. But all the proof they have suggests that it might happen, the same way it might happen every cycle. From what I heard, while it might be a strong one, this one won't be significantly different than the previous. Some satellites might fizzle out, you might get some static on your cell phone, but global blackouts and whatnot? Yeah, I'm not packing canned food and bottled water in the basement just yet.

I'll take my chances betting on a Reaper Invasion than a solar flare.... just saying. : P

[Max Dirks]

I strongly feel that we will be the ones doing the evading.

[Warpath]

I'll take my chances betting on a Reaper Invasion than a solar flare.... just saying. : P

I hope not, our galactic readiness super sucks right now.

[TheOnlyGhost]

Don't you think it's a strange coincidence that the earliest this C.M.E. might hit would be in December 2012? What are the chances of the Mayan calender AND the possible hit of the C.M.E. both be in December 2012? Maybe the Mayans were right?

For me personally, the chances of this happening (i.m.o.) is probably less than 1%, but still a possibility.

[Letho]

I thought the Mayan calendar is simply made so it resets every like 7000 years (the Long Count), and that it simply the way they handled days and numbers and made the next reset be in 2012. Not sure, but I heard something like that on like Discovery Channel or something.

[Dana]

I don't really get all the hype about the Mayan Doomsday. For two reasons; One, its bullshit and completely historically inaccurate. The calender has absolutely nothing to do with the end of the world. What most people confuse it with is the creation myth that was coined by the indigenous people of seperate empires. Aztecs, Mayans, Incas had variants of pretty much the same one. But the giste of it was that humanity would be created and destroyed a period of four different times by the Gods through various natural disasters. The Aztecs were the ones to come up with the idea of there being a fifth disaster that would be the permanent end to humanity in the form of what was believed to be an earthquake. What also needs to be understood is the conceptualization of their prophecy in that they believed these natural disasters were to be experienced by all of what they perceived to be their world, which for primitives in south america, it was isolated to south america.

People often overhype the Mayan prophecy by calling it a prophecy in the first place. It wasn't. It was a calender that went through different ages and they stopped it at a certain period which allows dumbasses to overanalyze it and believe that they predicted the end of the world. Which is not true at all.

This brings me to the second reason and the funnier one. Mayans are often credited with advances in mathematics, calenders, science, etc. But for such an innovative people that many paranoiacs often misbelieve as also having a far degree of foresight in predicting their future, I have a question ask. How come they didn't see the Spanish and their conquest coming?

Yeah. A lot of the history, especially ancient history is distorted considerably because we're limited in seeing the other side of the story because the Spanish wiped those civilizations out or enslaved them. Their ancestors are alive today in some areas, but its not like they were directly there either. And in terms of credibility, walking up to an indigenous in Peru and asking them about the Spanish conquest is kind of like walking up to a black guy and asking them how slavery was in the United States. How the fuck do they know anything about it? The people who experienced it are long, long dead, and at least in the case of the Mayans a lot of their reasoning and rationale for what they did was destroyed during the Spanish invasion.

Trufax.

[absentwizard]

2.: All electricity will be fried and go out globally and won't return for an estimated 10 - 20 years.

3.: No communication of any kind, because all phones/radios/satellites will be fried.


At the most, substations trip across the world. Sudden unloading spins up generators and the turbine valves react to reduce flow. One to five seconds later, the relay controls (housed inside a Faraday cage at all substations in the first place) do tentative first-reclose and the sudden load spins down generators. Turbine valves react and return to original flow. Even though the relays are connected to the outside for communications, they won't fry because they're optically isolated.

Parts qualified for use in space applications are designed to survive 95% or 99% confidence level for largest Flare/CME event head-on without significant degradation. They test these inside particle accelerators, which replicate the conditions. Some satellites may still fizz out, but hardly "all".

The effect of the CME on groundside things is greatly exaggerated because it has to get through the magnetosphere and atmosphere first. The 1/3-sun size of the CME doesn't really matter because it's not very dense at all and therefore can't, say, blow the atmosphere off of the planet. What does matter is the individual energy of each particle, which does not go up significantly (say, 2 orders of magnitude) from the current solar ejecta. To put it in perspective, a proton beam at the energy for those particles gets stopped dead by a few feet of air. The incoming CME faces thousands of times more area density.

[Nasr Moghadam]

Here's the funny thing... If all humanity dies out, no matter what way we may go, it's not the end of the world. The planet, even scorched by the sun or fucked up by nuclear radiation. It is still going to be here. Humanity is so egocentric that we think if we die it's the end of the world. No, we'll just be another species that didn't make it, like the dinosaurs. Earth and the"world" went on without them, and it'll continue going in without us..

[TheOnlyGhost]

Wow, they even made a TV show about the possible (yet highly unlikely) circumstances that would follow IF the flare hits in April 2013:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwfCRAtkYEI

[Penance]

I call it the curiosity of youth. It leads people to all sorts of stupid things, like believing the president is the herald of the antichrist or that Regean was the antichrist.

I'm the antichrist.

Praise me. :o