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Alright, I’ll cut right to the chase. I’m looking for a way to put some more activity into some of the other regions. Corone has more activity than all of the other major regions combined, and I’d like to spread that out a bit. And you know me, I’m not afraid to start a fire with a full tank of propane, so to speak… ;)
This is the part where you all hold your breaths. If, right now, you are thinking “Oh God, what is he up to now?” then I shall not disappoint.
My plan is to (ICly, of course) close Corone for a few months.
The following is just an example, and is by no means intended to be the finished product: Izvilvin is currently fighting Sasarai, who controls Glimmerfang, a gigantic dragon with powers the like of which Althanas has never seen. What if Glimmerfang just ‘happened’ to make his nest in the middle of Radasanth? People would be terrified, and the authorities would organize a large-scale evacuation from the continent. This would cause Corone to be shut down, IC as well as OOC, until sufficient plans could be made to deal with the dragon. Meanwhile, PC’s would be encouraged to take up root in other regions.
Now, before you start looking for my address to come kill me: let me say that I’ve no intention to drop a bomb on your heads out of nowhere. This is likely to happen a couple months into the future, so you would have plenty of time to finish stories in progress, or pause them at a good point at the very least. In addition, this would not by any means be a permanent change; once the other regions saw a lot more action, it would be opened back up.
Anyway, what do you think of this idea? Would you be willing to go along with this, or even take part in it? Do you have any suggestions/comments/complaints? I’m asking you to speak out now, so that I don’t step on any hands. This won’t happen unless I have damn-near full support from everybody, so I need everybody to tell me how they feel about it.
Thank you!
Forward, into th' breach!
Templum
02-02-07, 12:14 AM
I like the basic idea of closing Corone for a period, however, the particular example you gave would be a poor choice.
If this type of thing is going to be executed, it can't be based off any one characters story. That is why large scale story lines (like wars and attempted takeovers) don't work, one person tries to make their character the center of the story, which means noone else is all that interested in THEIR story. In this case, Glimmerfang is a part of Iz's story, not everyone elses. If he sat down, most characters reaction would be "Well, lets all get together and kill the thing," which then messed up Iz's storyline as well.
Obviously what you gave was an example, but I think you should stay away from any one PC's story for a basis of the closure. Try something more general and far reaching. Plagues, infestations of horrible creatures, global warming, an unbearable stench, these sort of things are more applicable to the population as a whole rather than just taking an element of one story and trying to apply it to everyone else.
I'm really against this. People RP in Corone because they want to and using any means to Dissuade Roleplaying in any region is not a good Idea to me and will only end up making Althanas worse overall. No offense but such a ploy will only make Corone worse and not make any of the other regions better so it would most likely be a hindrance to Althanas. Really the only way I think that other regions could draw people to play there is to offer an experience that is unique but not intimidating as it is now. there might be some alternate ways to draw people in but I want the regions doing their best to attract people and not have events in Corone to dissuade people from playing there.
I like the basic idea of closing Corone for a period, however, the particular example you gave would be a poor choice.
If this type of thing is going to be executed, it can't be based off any one characters story. That is why large scale story lines (like wars and attempted takeovers) don't work, one person tries to make their character the center of the story, which means noone else is all that interested in THEIR story. In this case, Glimmerfang is a part of Iz's story, not everyone elses. If he sat down, most characters reaction would be "Well, lets all get together and kill the thing," which then messed up Iz's storyline as well.
Obviously what you gave was an example, but I think you should stay away from any one PC's story for a basis of the closure. Try something more general and far reaching. Plagues, infestations of horrible creatures, global warming, an unbearable stench, these sort of things are more applicable to the population as a whole rather than just taking an element of one story and trying to apply it to everyone else.
That's a very good point. You're absolutely correct; it would be better to introduce the catalyst as a non-PC-related cataclysm of sorts.
I'm really against this. People RP in Corone because they want to and using any means to Dissuade Roleplaying in any region is not a good Idea to me and will only end up making Althanas worse overall. No offense but such a ploy will only make Corone worse and not make any of the other regions better so it would most likely be a hindrance to Althanas. Really the only way I think that other regions could draw people to play there is to offer an experience that is unique but not intimidating as it is now. there might be some alternate ways to draw people in but I want the regions doing their best to attract people and not have events in Corone to dissuade people from playing there.
I don't know. I think people RP in Corone because it's easy, not necessarily because they want to. It's a melting pot, they can do whatever they want there without being out of synch with the rest of the continent, and it's just a prime choice to get started writing a story in minimal time.
As it is, everybody writes in Corone. Newer players see that, so they go to where the action is. The way I see it, if the activity is diffused amongst several continents, then it will attract many more people in the long run. Instead of seeing one active region and several dormant ones, they'll see several active regions. This will make it that much more fun and interesting to write - and stay - on Althanas for newer members.
And I don't think uniqueness of the regions is really a fair argument. Every single region - with the exception of Corone, even - is unique. In addition, each of them is fairly easy to RP in if you read a little bit into the regions first. With Corone, they don't have to read. They can just jump right in. Like I said; they take Corone because it's easy.
Bohemia
02-02-07, 12:50 AM
I strongly support this idea. Yeah, sure, Corone can be great for a thread that doesn't need much thought, or include much Continent info (no offense Letho, I try and put your stuff in my threads), but Madison and Vicky and even Cory's hard work on their continents is going to waste because nobody writes there. People could do with having a bit of a break from Corone, and I'm gonna say it now, in all honesty; if you can't bear without Corone, you're not much of a writer.
Nymph and Dragon
02-02-07, 12:58 AM
It's not the "adapting" part that's a turn-off about this idea because it's not all that hard to do a little research and "adapt" to a different kind of land. Look at how well people "adapted" during World War II when they were forced to live in Ghettos. The problem comes when such adaption is forced. I like the idea of people spreading away from Corone, but why can't we use positive feedback? Saying "NO" just makes people obstinate.
I forgot who brought this up before, but if the order on the list of the regions is mixed up a little so that some of the less-populated regions are nearer to the top, people might be more inclined to look into them. Just for a painless starter . . .
I'm not trying to just put my foot down and say "no." I want this to be something that everybody carries out willingly - or better yet, I'd like to get a lot of people to actively help carry this out. Should this be done, I want it to go as smoothly as possible - that's why I'm setting the tentative start of this plan so far into the future. People have time to work out their own stories so they don't get ruined by the interruption.
And I do think that the fact that Corone is the first on the list has an effect, but I don't think it's so large that scrambling the order would fix it. Even if it's at the bottom on the main forum, it's still the easy forum that people can jump straight into with minimal effort.
I like the idea of giving some motivation to branch out toward other continents, but I don't think closing off Corone will fix things. A lot of threads have no real reason to be on one continent over any other, so, as everyone has said, they generally wind up on the continent perceived to require the least amount of research. So, given their fairly interchangeable quality of location, I imagine most of those threads would storm the 'Other Regions' forum if Corone closed.
It's kind of a tricky problem to solve, and I'm afraid I don't have any suggestions.
I like the idea of giving some motivation to branch out toward other continents, but I don't think closing off Corone will fix things. A lot of threads have no real reason to be on one continent over any other, so, as everyone has said, they generally wind up on the continent perceived to require the least amount of research. So, given their fairly interchangeable quality of location, I imagine most of those threads would storm the 'Other Regions' forum if Corone closed.
It's kind of a tricky problem to solve, and I'm afraid I don't have any suggestions.
See, my theory (and this applies to your idea too, Templum) is that, with a great dragon or something of that nature, people would be exiled from Corone for the time being. They wouldn't just start up new lives and live in Raiaera and Alerar, etc., though; instead, they'd probably be searching for a way to destroy the dragon.
So, while Corone was closed down from the dragon, leaders of other continents would be mobilizing and searching for ways to defeat the dragon. Once all of the people were forced to leave Corone, they could all get involved in related Feature-Quests that took place all over the rest of Althanas. I don't think people would simply move to Other Regions, nothing would really be happening there. Meanwhile, the continent writers would be organizing features to draw as many of those people in as possible. Althanas is meant to be an interactive community; what better way to interact than to cooperatively gain a region back?
Personally, I'm a bit tired of the sticker that is stamped on Corone that it's popular only because it doesn't require much thinking or planning to make a story in such a region. If you do that, you'll probably get 50-60 score, same as in every other region, you know. I would even go as far to say that it's harder to write a great story in Corone. In other regions, if you utilize some of the posted info, you automatically gain several points in your score. However, due to the freedom that Corone gives, when you write a story there, you have to come up with a lot of stuff yourself, so the score is ultimately reflecting mostly your imagination. This can, of course, both hurt you and help you, and that's what differentiates the good story from a great one.
Now, I'm sorry if that came off too defensive, because I'm not completely against Atzar's idea. I'm just not certain that it was going to work. We discuss under the premise that people rp in Corone only because it's either the first region on the list (which I think is quite ridiculous, because then Fallien should be the least active region, which it most certainly isn't) or because it's so easy to make a thread here. I ask you, what about the people that actually like writing in Corone, who feel comfortable there? What about the people that linked their characters to the land and already have a plan for their stories? What about the people that like just making threads without, you know, much thinking? Some of them might adopt this idea and go write in other regions, while others won't appreciate it a whole lot. And forcing people to do something they don't want to isn't what Althanas is all about.
Also, as the writer of Corone, I have to consider the possible repercussions of this idea. Shutting a region completely down for a couple of months might spread the activity to other regions, but it also might kill the closed region. People who liked to write there probably won't wait for two months to write there again, and the rest will be busy with other regions. So ultimately, it could come down to sacrificing Corone just so the other regions would up their numbers. It's a pessimistic prediction, but a possible one.
Now, as I said, I'm not completely against this idea. I wouldn't mind seeing Corone ICly closed. In fact, after the Civil War there is done, it would be safe to assume that Corone will close its borders until restructuring/rebuilding is done. Corone would withdraw and isolate itself, licking its wounds, and during that time it won't be the most welcome place. Recession, poverty, inner squabblings, high taxes, you name it. So characters could go searching for greener pastures in other regions because of this. This might be an alternative solution.
Whew, that was a long post.
AdventWings
02-02-07, 06:32 AM
Oh, sure, Letho. You call that long? :rolleyes:
Anyways, I have my gripes with even temporary shutdowns of established regions as well. Most of it was detailed in so many people's posts before me, so I won't reiterate them and sound like a broken record.
Suggestion would be... Uhh... Drats. Region promotion isn't really going well, is it? ^_^;
Elrundir
02-02-07, 07:13 AM
Yeah, I agree with one idea that has been stated before, which is that I don't think closing off Corone is the best solution to this problem. For one thing, it ignores the actual basis of the problem - namely, why are people writing more in Corone than in the other regions? All you'd be doing here doing is shutting them out and saying, "Well, now you don't have a choice," and cracking a whip at them. People aren't just going to discover interest in a region because they're forced to.
I say, if you want to spark interest in the other regions, then do just that. It's not a matter of backing players into a corner; it's a matter of doing "something" with each region so that they'll say to themselves, "Hey, that's pretty cool, I want to RP there." Otherwise, if we just close off Corone, we might just find them saying, "This is stupid, I'm not going to bother RPing here at all then."
Zook Murnig
02-02-07, 08:07 AM
There are some, however, who would like their characters to move to another region temporarily, but can't find a good reason for them to do so. For example, I'd like for Caduceus to visit Fallien, where his people originated, but he has little reason to do so on his own. If some catastrophe forced him to leave, however, that would be on the top of the list of places he'd go.
Also, Atzar has made it clear that he isn't doing this without the consent of the majority. He stated that, if the idea was unpopular in the end, it wouldn't be done.
Personally, I feel like another reason for Corone's continual activity is the Citadel. The only other continent where you get healed for free after a deathmatch is Scara Brae, which is also pretty active, though their arena isn't so active. If the other continents had a similar attraction, like some sort of games or something, there would be more reason to write there.
Also, there was the idea a while back of cheaper sales in regional bazaars. If you'd written in a region, the bazaar would offer you a regional price for, in example, a gun in Alerar, or clothing in Corone. If that was followed through on, it would be a help in increasing activity in the regions other than Corone.
Heh. I can't believe someone compared this to the Ghetto's of WW2. Fuck. It's not that dramatic... lol
Anyway, I've talked to Atzar about this the other day, and he knows my oppinion already. However, for those of you that don't, I'm for it.
Now, you complain that it would 'shut down' the continent. Why? 'Cause there's a dragon roosting in Radasanth? Feh. What about Akashima, Gisela, Jadet, Underwood and Serenti. Deary me, they might actually be considered real cities for once...
I think this plan would work better (and I'm not 'w00 h00 war') if it was something more spread out. Say, something like the demon wars during the Age of Darkness. I mean. If said dragon had a small army that took over Radasanth, then built itself up slowly to fight the rest of the country, that would be a lot better than having just the dragon...
It would also mean that people would be forced only away from the top portion of the map, and could still rp the conflict from Concordia Southwards. -shrug- I think that there truly is no realistic way to 'close' an entire continent short of a massive natural disaster that could destroy it...
Also, I too am of the opinion that Corone is easy to rp in more so than it is fun. I've had countless threads there, just because I didn't have to put much thought into them... Sorry if that offends, but it's true. And lately, with most of my characters, I've begun to branch away from Corone and plant them firmly in other regions.
the reason Corone is so popular is the place is a balance of the freedom that the 'other regions' give and connection to Althanas that places like Fallien have. To tell the truth I prefer Corone because it's actually well thought out now and I still don't have to worry about missing a fact region info and getting screwed because of that.
Also the problem with the regions other than Corone is they play themes that limit players more than the themes that grant flavor. Fallien plays too much of it's xenophobia to limit the freedom that players who didn't make a Fallien specific PC that didn't have to devote a part of the RP to get an Exit pass and having people check the pass. I think the best way to make the other regions better would be to loosen them up a little. the information on a region should be a tool to help players tell a story and not a weight that hinders them. And using the setting feels more like regurgitating region info that actually creating anything. So messing with Corone just isn't the answer since it is the most successful region, actually the best idea would be to do nothing since people do like the strict guidelines that places like Fallien have. I just want places to feel open.
Elrundir
02-02-07, 09:32 AM
With regards to the "wider scale" conflict idea, I fail to see how this would solve the so-called problem. In fact, it seems more like it would exacerbate it. War attracts RP, plain and simple. If Corone is "easy" to RP in as is (though personally I've never understood that it's so much "easier" than any of the other regions, except perhaps those that aren't all fleshed out just yet), then all this would do is give people actual enticement to write there.
So, going by this "difficulty of writing" angle, whether I agree with it or not: I still don't see how this plan would solve anything. Even if something happened in Corone that made the government shut its borders or evacuate it or what have you, does that make the other regions "easier" to write in? If the problem is that players think a region is too restrictive or difficult to get a grasp on or whatever, then this is the issue that needs to be dealt with. Are they too complicated? Simplify them. I'm not saying it'll be quick or easy, but perhaps a quick and easy solution isn't what's needed here.
By the by, I wouldn't contribute Corone's popularity to the Citadel. In fact, as far as activity goes, I personally factor Citadel battles out of the equation entirely. I tend to consider it as a separate region unto itself (just for that specific purpose, of course). Whether or not the Citadel is there doesn't affect quests or RPs or anything of that nature. If it was in Raiaera, or Alerar, or Istraloth, those regions wouldn't have any more people writing in them than they do now. It would only be a perceived increase, but that would be taking place within the Citadel itself.
And just to clarify, I'm not trying to shoot down this idea or say that it's stupid. I'm all for having these kinds of events that stimulate activity in a region - any region. I just don't see how it will actually solve the underlying problem that you initially stated.
I'm interested to hear Ashiakin's opinion on all this, as well. This is right up his alley, after all, and knowing him, I wouldn't be surprised if he's already got something clever up his sleeve.
You just contradicted yourself, possibly twice.
Anyway, what I just got out of that, was that Corone's cool because it's free for everyone to rp in. Well, duh. And that the other regions aren't cool because they have a theme. Holy hell, regions having a theme to them make it hard to roleplay in?
If you really have that much trouble rping in a region just because it has a theme, you have a problem with writing. I'm not trying to be rude, but that's a rediculous reason not to rp in a region. Seriously.
Back on Topic.
I thought of something else, for a reason... Let's say that Corone get's split in two by the warring factions. That would leave it open for people to roleplay in, but at the same time give people a reason to leave it. Personally, I see it as a better idea to make the Coronian Empire (or whatever) something like the undead in Eluriand. Let 'em hang around for a bit, get people involved in the storyline... make 'em ruthless bastards and have people leave the parts of the continent that they control.
Would that mean people could still roleplay in 'open' Corone? Damn straight, but there would be a mass conflict they'd have to watch out for. Would that also push a good number to other regions? Yep yep, and there could be quite a bit of story behind that...
Look at it this way. What would happen if people migrated from the divided Coronian countryside, moved to Alerar (perhaps) and began introducing their own customs to the nation? Lol, it'd be awesome. Or perhaps a sudden influx of foreigner's in Fallien, directly after they've had their cult/Keep war? Damn, think of what that would do to the economy... A broken and rebuilding Irrakam, filled with foreigners, no longer able to give out as many passes as there are immigrants?
Pushing people out of Corone doesn't force people to make new PC's to fit with other regions, it forces other regions to fit with the sudden influx of new PC's. It's a great idea. Wonderful. FAN-FUCKIN-TASTIC!
lol. And I love you guys, no matter what you might assume I meant in anger... not true.
EDIT: This was directed after Reiko, Elrundir just post's faster... :P
((Referring to Elrundir's earlier post))
See, I don't think that simply creating a spark in another region will draw people to it. Alerar has guns and the war against Raiaera. Fallien has a civil war and glass equipment, which everybody knows is badass. You can basically run your own miniature kingdom in Salvar, as long as you jump when the king commands. Raiaera is the only IC place of magic in Althanas at this current time. The only thing that doesn't really have anything going for it at the time being is Istraloth.
The main problem is that too many people write in Corone, to the point of exclusion of the other continents. Why would people go write in Raiaera or Istraloth? Nobody writes there, they'd be all alone. The main point of Althanas is to write with other people, and if there aren't any 'other people' in the unique regions then many people won't write there.
And Letho, you mentioned the storylines that many people are doing in Corone. First of all, I want to re-emphasize that I would never plan to just kill your story where it stands. What I'd like to do is to wait a few months so that the stories have been finished or paused at a good place. Then, I'd like to close Corone. People would go to other continents for awhile, during which time Athylia's Verse could get kicked off the ground by hosting the major threads for war mobilization or whatever means we wish to use to get Corone back.
And once Corone was re-opened, the stories could continue right where they left off. It could add a lot of spice to the stories by including effects of the war in the story, or you could simply use liquid time to say that your events are happening before the war. In that case, you could basically ignore it completely.
Speaking of liquid time, there's another possible alternative. We could simply strongly encourage people to join in with the story and migrate to other continents for awhile, while people who had to write in Corone could stay there and pretend it wasn't even happening. My only gripe with that idea (and the reason that I didn't just suggest that in the first place) is that it would be quite confusing, since Corone would be 'closed' but people would still be writing there.
Anyway... thoughts? I'm glad this thread is getting this much input... keep it coming.
Cyrus the virus
02-02-07, 01:27 PM
I think we should just ban people who stick to Corone all the time...
Rather, I think the regions need to be easier to understand. Especially Alerar. I just don't have a sense for what the cities look like, and basic things like that.
Elrundir
02-02-07, 02:19 PM
((Referring to Elrundir's earlier post))
See, I don't think that simply creating a spark in another region will draw people to it. Alerar has guns and the war against Raiaera. Fallien has a civil war and glass equipment, which everybody knows is badass. You can basically run your own miniature kingdom in Salvar, as long as you jump when the king commands. Raiaera is the only IC place of magic in Althanas at this current time. The only thing that doesn't really have anything going for it at the time being is Istraloth.
The main problem is that too many people write in Corone, to the point of exclusion of the other continents. Why would people go write in Raiaera or Istraloth? Nobody writes there, they'd be all alone. The main point of Althanas is to write with other people, and if there aren't any 'other people' in the unique regions then many people won't write there.
"If you build it, they will come."
There aren't any other people writing in the other regions, you say. I'm not going to deny it (well, at least in a more metaphoric sense of "nobody" writing there, rather than it being literal, because I know there are some threads going on); that's what this topic is about after all. And true enough, it's a self-perpetuating problem. But from what I've seen, the main issue isn't that people have some strong aversion to RPing in those areas, because when people do post in the RPC with quest sign-ups in regions other than Corone, they still get replies. The issue, then, would be how to get people to start up quests in Corone, because as I said, if they start them, people will follow.
I'll reiterate the main reason I take issue with this plan: I'm skeptical as to how well it will solve things in the long run. So Corone gets closed off, and people are forced to make threads in Raiaera or Alerar or where-have-you instead. And then when Corone opens up again? This perceived issue will resurface. Corone will still be "easier" to RP in. The other regions will still be "too complicated" to get a firm understanding of. If the only problem here was that nobody is RPing in the other regions (that is, if it's just a matter of chance, rather than there being a reason for the lack of RP there), then it would be something that could be solved, and probably would already have been solved, with a little willpower. You know: one person starts a quest, a few people join in, some others just read it, a handful think "Hey, this region's pretty cool after all," and so on and so forth.
Now, of course I'll admit that forcing people to RP in those regions can bring about the "Hey, this region's pretty cool after all" train of thought. But if there is some underlying issue to why people aren't RPing there, many of which have been suggested in this very thread, it's not going to go away. Corone will presumably still be the region of choice when it's open again - hell, it may be more appealing than before because it will just have been ravaged by war or a dragon or something, so a lot of drama is introduced. I know I'd be interested in RPing in a war-torn Corone, or a dragon-razed Radasanth, once the storm has calmed.
So my stance remains the same. The issue is not quite that too many people RP in Corone, as you say, but rather why too many people RP in Corone. It may be a self-perpetuating loop, but even that loop has an origin. That's what needs to be rooted out first and foremost.
Movement is certainly needed--but maybe restriction is not.
Consider this as a possible alternate plan:
We start a movement of the more distinguished writers on the site (Atzar, Witchblace, the Valkyrie, Letho, INDK come to mind) to create some really interesting, lucrative thread-groups in the different regions--ones that would be conducive to large groups of participants and high levels of activity. The trick would be scope--perhaps the wars in Fallien and Alerar aren't as appealing to players as they could be because they're so wide-reaching. It's hard for a character to make an impact in a continent-wide war unless he or she happens to be an incredibly powerful general or whatnot. Maybe quests that catered to large character groups but still stayed specific enough that everyone could be heard would be more appealing.
Also, consider the factor of the Citadel. No easier place to get in a fight. Every possible manner of battlefield, no worries about killing your character off or permanently wounding him. No doubt, it's gotta be one of the main reasons people spend so much time in Corone.
So here's another thought. What if we added a Citadel-esque element to every region, and maybe even limited the Citadel itself?
I.e., a mechanized battle arena in Alerar, equipped with immense and intricate gear systems, motorized battlefield elements and maybe the occasional whirling gear system of death, capable of manufacturing artificial battlefields of all kinds. An arena-sized sundial system in one of the ruins of Fallien, built centuries ago by the Cult of Mitra, that does all kinds of fun things with sunlight, obelisks, and all manner of other Egyptian appeals, and resurrects any warrior that falls within it. And any number of Salvic nobles would probably enjoy spectating two warriors shredding each other and would have staffs of skilled healers to patch them up when they were done.
Such elements would have to increase traffic, right? Maybe one reason Corone is so popular is just because people are there all the time.
EDIT: Wow...just realized I kinda stole Zook and Elrundir's point...sorry guys...
I typed up a rather good post prior to this one, but a power outage ate it up.
The gist of it was this: You can't make people write somewhere or something. I remember that there was a similar discussion to this one once and I said the same thing. I don't know about the rest of you, but when I first joined Althanas, I checked out what it was all about. I haven't read all the info (as I'm pretty certain that most new members don't), but I got a good grasp of it. Hell, just reading the short description under each region's name gives you a good idea what each region is all about. I'm sure most people did this too. So they probably don't need somebody to tell them that all over again. They know that, if you want to mingle with the elves, you don't make a thread in Fallien.
I agree with a lot of what Elrundir said. There is a problem, yes, but leading people by the hand (or even pulling them by the hand) is not the solution. How about leading by example? Fenris already said something about it and I'd like to add to it. If every person who posted in this thread stopped debating and instead made a new three-person quest in one of the regions, we would get at least twenty people to post in the regions. If only a quarter of them gets "hooked", we get five people interested in the regions and I'm pretty certain that they would start inviting other people to help them in future endeavors. So instead of debating about the problem, why not trying to be the part of the solution?
Bottom line is, if you want to see regions more active, be more active in them.
Also, sorry if I came on a bit hard in my last post, Atzar. I know you didn't mean to cut people's story's off, but while closing Corone might not do this exactly, it would cut the potential stories that people have brewing in their heads somewhere, and we all tend to have a few of those.
I must say that I like Fenrir's Citadel idea. Having a branch of Citadel in each region might make people rp battles more in specific regions. And battles might lead to more activity outside the arena.
Shouldn't the Citadel be made into it's own region forum, something like the peaceful promenade? If you take away all the threads from the Citadel, it alone has more than every region excepting Corone and Raiaera.
Also, culturized citadels in each region would be AMAZING. That should happen. Now.
The Citadel is a pivotol part of Corone, not just the regional activity, but the storyline as well. That, I don't think, should be moved. However, the cultural equivalents of it would be really fun to delve into and discover a little more of...
Also, I think Gilds 'Spiral' idea was an awesome way to boost activity throughout the regions... it also promoted people roleplaying in groups and rping out friendships.
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