Originally Posted by
Saxon
Sorry to interrupt your conversation, Scrotus, but I call bullshit.
'Being in talks' is fine if you're a diplomat, but you're managing a site and supporting a community. Whether you realize it or not, your hesitation to reveal any final decisions over this out of threat of being reprimanded is admitting to everyone you're afraid of its potential faliure. I'm not saying this out of criticism, but out of the necessity for something like this to work. If you want the community and everybody else to support it, I'd suggest posting what you're going to add and modify it as it comes down the pipe. That way everybody knows what's going on and if any problems arise they can follow your logic instead of accusing you of being draconian or incompetent.
Things change, we all know that, but going around saying you're hiding it from us under the excuse that its still under discussion is not valid if you want people to take much stock into this. Yeah, the staff has had its ass handed to it before over stupid shit, but if you want to at least make changes at this level you have to at least give all of us the appearance that you have faith that something like this works, even if you really don't. And the easiest way to do that besides publically supporting it is with transparency.
You guys seem like you're really adamant about this, and we're a month away from show time. I think the whole keeping it behind the veil thing stopped after Max announced this in the first place. Any point afterwards where you're implementing rules and enforcing them without notifying the community at large first is just being vindictive. These particular circumstances, yeah its understandable, but if you're going to enforce something like this, post the update already.