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    God damn you hemingway.

    Well in My english class we were reading the sun also rises by Ernest hemingway. God awful book, and I wanted to discuss the writing portion and possible styles of writing he had in said book, see if any of them are any good.

    The first thing I noticed was his staccato style, where he has a bunch of rapid fire dialog, and it seems like character put in like a sentence and snuck off, never to be heard from again.
    Example:
    "yo dog" I said
    "Sup man"
    "How 'bout this weather?"
    "Sure is nice"
    "Yep"
    "Hows the wife?"
    "Good, yours?"
    "Great, you know what else is great??"
    "What?'
    "Drinking"
    "Indeed"
    "Lets go get hammered."
    "Sure"

    Above is typical "The sun also rises" dialog. Not only that it seems he writes all of his female characters to be tramps. I mean really, had anyone else noticed this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Frost View Post
    Above is typical "The sun also rises" dialog. Not only that it seems he writes all of his female characters to be tramps. I mean really, had anyone else noticed this?
    You ever notice how Bukowski writes about drinking and horse races and whores? Man, its like writers have these individual styles or something!
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    Yeah, but the way he writes them is trashy, and hardly any of them have any personality or depth. Its shitty writing that would get shitty reviews today, its only famous because of the time it was written, and wouldn't stand in today's modern world of literature. In fact, it should probably be shoved into the back of the libraries in a small corner with all of the other "timeless" classics that aren't really as timeless as they claim to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slayer of the Rot View Post
    You ever notice how Bukowski writes about drinking and horse races and whores? Man, its like writers have these individual styles or something!
    Don't bring Bukowski into this. He doesn't deserve to be associated even coincidentally with a site occupied by the sorts of retards that think Hemingway was a hack and A Tale of Fire and Ice or whatever godawful Tolkien elfcrap the nerd flavor of the month is is the pinnacle of modern literature.

    Protip: try going back and reading it when you're not thirteen and have detoxed off Naruto mangalanka or japanimotion or whatever the fuck it is you goddamn submonkey kids today read between going to the dump and slamming refrigerator doors over your huge foreheads.
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    This has nothing to do with my age, so don't start there godhand. I don't like it because his style is choppy at times and take multiple reads to make any sense at all. Not because I just happen to be 15. Honestly I like a few of the older works, Ethan Frome was bearable, Frankenstein was pretty good. I liked the odyssey, Its just the fact that their books had flow. the sun akso rises doesn't even have a real ending. Brett and Jake are just chillin in a cab for gods sake. Don't flame me for my opinion when I bothered to state exactly why I didn't like it. Instead you could step of your high horse and bother to realize that I'm making an educated analysis about his style while you come in and try and troll me. Whos being the adult here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Frost
    Its shitty writing that would get shitty reviews today, its only famous because of the time it was written, and wouldn't stand in today's modern world of literature.
    Ow, what, what's that coppery taste in my mouth? Is that blood? Did I just bite my tongue clean off?

    Why yes, I think I may have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alembic View Post
    Ow, what, what's that coppery taste in my mouth? Is that blood? Did I just bite my tongue clean off?

    Why yes, I think I may have.
    Have you read "The sun also rises?" The character start drinking every morning for the most part (and continue to do so for a vast amount of the chapter) and Jake (the main character) is the only one with a reliable, steady job. The rest are either failed authors or just live off their parents money. Had you given this to be reviewed by any of the next generations critics they wold tear it to shreds, regardless of the fact that it was about as pleasant a read as shoving cactus's in my eye sockets. He had a couple good points, and a bit of good humor, so it wasn't entirely bad. I just view his writing to be tedious and choppy. I get what he was going at, and perhaps not all of his books are a bad. But the Sun also rises was terrible.

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    Oh dear. Maybe if I attach some sort of pully system to all the great American authors and literary critics of the past, oh, eighty years, I could harness the kinetic energy generated from them simultaneously turning in their graves. This thread alone should provide enough power for the entire Western Hemisphere.
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    The sad part is yo know this book will drop like a stone in water when all the kids of my generation rise to power because to face facts I'm one of the more appreciative of literature of my age group. And unlike others my age I have a reason why I don't like it other than "Its boring." I just don't like his style. I found it to be repetitive and dry.

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    First off Frosty, capitalize Hemingway. Seriously, it's driving me insane.

    Secondly, here's an odd thing, but I typed in 'Modern reviews for 'The Sun Also Rises' ' in Google.

    Can you guess what I found?

    Dozens upon dozens of positive reviews. Not a single negative one. Also, guess when they're dated?

    2008-2010. Two years ago up until this year.

    So either you're not getting the deeper meaning of the book, or you did not truly 'read' it.

    I'm not saying you have to like it, hate it all you want. But it's original Hemingway, you should damn well respect it.

    Otherwise, you're more than welcome to spend time with the rest of 'your' generation
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