I would hope that the risk of people voting in cliques would not deter a good suggestion. If we see those sort of behaviors we are fearing, then we can take steps to alter or end the People's Choice award. We are catastrophising otherwise.
I would hope that the risk of people voting in cliques would not deter a good suggestion. If we see those sort of behaviors we are fearing, then we can take steps to alter or end the People's Choice award. We are catastrophising otherwise.
The reason there are fewer JCs is a heavier focus on having fun and quantity. Writing a JC, no matter how well you naturally write, is not just time-consuming, it is also exhausting. Having said this, I've never had a JC, and I sincerely doubt I ever will. I just, personally, don't care enough to take the time and effort required, especially when most of my time now goes to staff work.
As I said, though, it comes down to a shift in focus. Quantity over quality. With that said, there is still something to be said for quality, but the focus just isn't on it.
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I agree with BaBe and Flames. To add a point which I haven't noticed mentioned yet, the popularity contest aspect of a Player's Choice award presents two problems. Firstly, as has been mentioned, it will cause people to game the system by always/only voting for their friends, and attempting to solicit votes. I don't think acknowledging that is catastrophizing at all. However, think about the other end of the stick as well. New players, or those who are less popular/have less friends on the boards, would be completely excluded from PC awards. I can see them becoming a kind of club, and I don't really see the need for that. If multiple people are reading your threads and telling you they like them, that should be a) reward enough and b) motivation to put in the extra effort and go for a JC.
Agreed.
Some official insight here.
Rayleigh and I quietly removed the reference to 70+ scores as Judge's Choice eligible because we wanted to transition to a point where any judge could nominate a thread for the award regardless of score (since our scores vary significantly). It wasn't widely announced yet because we want workshop threads to be Judge's Choice eligible too and simply haven't decided a nomination process yet. I'd like it in the hands of the judge's completely, but the catch-22 is that judges don't always read or workshop threads they aren't assigned. Ultimately, we'll probably allow player nominations and judge's votes, but that's down the line.
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What if you had two different shoppers suggest a thread for nomination, and then a judge would take a good look at it and decide whether or not it is worthy of an official JC nom?
Along these lines, it would be pretty easy for a judge to see whether the reviews were favorable in a workshop. While all judges scan over the thread before making it a workshop (close enough to ensure it is a coherent story, and not the same things posted over and over to gain extra rewards), we don't read it very closely. However, when I close up workshops I do read the commentary that is provided. I want to make sure those who left comments earned their rewards, and that it isn't too harsh (if it were, I'd have a discussion via PM). Moving forward, I'd be happy to give workshops that receive overly positive reviews a closer read-through, and nominate them myself if I agree. It isn't a well-developed nomination process, by any means, but it is a start.
I think we need to step away from score as a majorly defining criteria for Jcs. We've had threads in the past that scored exceptionally well, but were shot down in the discussions portions. A Judges choice should shift towards it being a hands down enjoyable read, something that engages the reader despite some of its flaws etc.
Just my two cents here
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