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    Quote Originally Posted by Letho View Post
    F3 will not be Fallout in the way we all know and love. But when you look at the whole matter and take into account the advance of technology, it's almost unrealistic to expect that F3 would use a similar engine as the first two. Developers don't make games for old players only (unfortunately). They have to take into account the new generations and their tastes, and the new kids like their 3D graphics. Now, of course they could use an engine similar to that in Neverwinter Nights or something, but that's not Bethesda's specialty.
    They could've used the engine that was used for Fallout: Tactics, which was one of the more recent in the series and still managed to hold onto the things that made Fallout great. I understand there is big hype for 3D graphics and all that, but we also had the floating heads for dialogue, the videos, the interactive dialogue trees, etc. And from what I understand about F3, they aren't using most if any of that. Not to mention 3rd person RTS/Turn-based games (Warcraft, Penny Arcade's ORSPD, Paper Mario, etc) are still huge today regardless of the presence of 'new audiences'.

    I dunno Letho, you may not be able to please everybody but if you're in a business that caters to others with entertainment, it is your responsibility to make a game that most want. Especially if it's part of an age old series that has become legendary. Now it just seems F3 has attracted people who've never played it before, optimists, and bad critics.

    But, let me reiterate some of what I had said about the gameplay and what not. BS has a creative license to do what they please with a game. They want to make it 3D? Fine. They want to make explodable cars that have a cheesy minature nuclear explosion? Fine. But when they gut the traditional gameplay, black humor, and various nuances that made the games great all you've got left is a shriveled husk casing the illusion of something that could've been a great game if they had just chosen better with what to upgrade or throw out.
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    I know, man. Trust me when I say that you're preaching to the choir. If they used the old 2D engine and just added a new story, leaving everything as it was so many years ago, I would've loved the game. I'm not the kind of a gamer that's dependent on graphics and I still play the original Fallouts today with the same fervor with which I play newer games such as The Witcher. But I'm also ready to give this game a chance if for no other reason, then to see the world of Fallout from a different perspective. I mean, for God sakes, you played Brotherhood of Steel for the consoles. F3 simply cannot be worse than that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Letho View Post
    I know, man. Trust me when I say that you're preaching to the choir. If they used the old 2D engine and just added a new story, leaving everything as it was so many years ago, I would've loved the game. I'm not the kind of a gamer that's dependent on graphics and I still play the original Fallouts today with the same fervor with which I play newer games such as The Witcher. But I'm also ready to give this game a chance if for no other reason, then to see the world of Fallout from a different perspective. I mean, for God sakes, you played Brotherhood of Steel for the consoles. F3 simply cannot be worse than that.
    of coarse it'd going to be better than that. BOS was rather half assed.

    But I do think Beth has preserved the black humor. The main Trailer has a bit of it. The Vault ad is very funny. Also Beth has their top writer working on the dialog and not the people that made a lot of Oblivion's dialog stock fantasy.

    It is kinda a shame that the gameplay is vastly different but really it's a nice new perspective on the Falout Universe. It'll feel more like I'm my character really get a great feel for the setting.
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    What, the game's out for like weeks now and nobody revives this thread?! Unforgivable!

    Fallout 3 sucks, by the way, at least it does for me. It sucks down all the free time I have just like Morrowind did back in the day when I literally put in hundreds of hours into it. Which means the game is fucking awesome. I was skeptical about it as probably every Fallout fan way, but I can't say that I'm disappointed. No, I'm drawn into the world just like I was when I played the first two. Granted, I'm a huge fan of Morrowind and its huge, open world, so it's no surprise that I love the fact that there's now this huge Fallout wasteland that I can explore the hell out of.

    So, anybody else played/plays the game? If not, why the fuck not?! Cause it's good. Very good. It has guns and stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Letho View Post
    What, the game's out for like weeks now and nobody revives this thread?! Unforgivable!

    Fallout 3 sucks, by the way, at least it does for me. It sucks down all the free time I have just like Morrowind did back in the day when I literally put in hundreds of hours into it. Which means the game is fucking awesome. I was skeptical about it as probably every Fallout fan way, but I can't say that I'm disappointed. No, I'm drawn into the world just like I was when I played the first two. Granted, I'm a huge fan of Morrowind and its huge, open world, so it's no surprise that I love the fact that there's now this huge Fallout wasteland that I can explore the hell out of.

    So, anybody else played/plays the game? If not, why the fuck not?! Cause it's good. Very good. It has guns and stuff.
    My dad accidently bought the game for me, intending to cancel the order after I told him I wanted nothing to do with it, but it came anyway. My brother seems to be enjoying it after I handed it off to him, and I guess I'll eventually play it, but I'll still have a great deal of prejudice against it.

    We got the collector's edition too. So I unapologetically kept the Vault-Tec lunch box and I'm probably going to put the bobble head under my car and run it the fuck over.
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    What about the Lincoln's Repeater? Once I found it, I pretty much didn't need any other weapon all the way to the end of the game, especially since I had a good stock of .44 ammo. Its reloading animation is pretty nifty. The Rail Rifle was pretty awesome, too. Pinning stuff with the spikes was very nice. The Alien Blaster was a disappointment, though. Its condition went down visibly with every goddamn shot. And I didn't have anything I could fix it with.
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    I hated this game so damn much. Not because it was a bad story, innovative combat system (except for actual manual fighting, which was crap on the 360), but straight out of the Vault, I wandered EVERYWHERE else except to Megaton. I actually got all the way down to that city that's in a battleship. YEA! DOWN THERE!

    Only later from a friend did I hear that going straight south of the school would've taken me to Megaton. I nearly threw my damn 360 out the window.
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